JK Rowling targeted by trans-activists

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Maybe if you haven’t been following a saga - apparently at all - then you shouldn’t try to sea lion it?

Here are some quotes of Rowling’s where she explicitly seeks to exclude trans women from the definition of women:

“I want trans women to be safe. At the same time, I do not want to make natal girls and women less safe. When you throw open the doors of bathrooms and changing rooms to any man who believes or feels he’s a woman – and, as I’ve said, gender confirmation certificates may now be granted without any need for surgery or hormones – then you open the door to any and all men who wish to come inside.”

(Bathrooms and changing rooms have always used self-identification. Rowling has written several books in which boys go into girl’s toilets.)

“I’ve read all the arguments about femaleness not residing in the sexed body, and the assertions that biological women don’t have common experiences, and I find them, too, deeply misogynistic and regressive. It’s also clear that one of the objectives of denying the importance of sex is to erode what some seem to see as the cruelly segregationist idea of women having their own biological realities or – just as threatening – unifying realities that make them a cohesive political class. The hundreds of emails I’ve received in the last few days prove this erosion concerns many others just as much. It isn’t enough for women to be trans allies. Women must accept and admit that there is no material difference between trans women and themselves.

But, as many women have said before me, ‘woman’ is not a costume. ‘Woman’ is not an idea in a man’s head. ‘Woman’ is not a pink brain, a liking for Jimmy Choos or any of the other sexist ideas now somehow touted as progressive. Moreover, the ‘inclusive’ language that calls female people ‘menstruators’ and ‘people with vulvas’ strikes many women as dehumanising and demeaning. I understand why trans activists consider this language to be appropriate and kind, but for those of us who’ve had degrading slurs spat at us by violent men, it’s not neutral, it’s hostile and alienating.”

(This is explicitly trans-exclusionary. It’s also transmisogynistic to suggest trans women think that woman is a costume, or that they’re only trans because they like women’s fashion or the colour pink.)

Some people need to understand what "Sea lioning" is.

And some people don't understand that calling someone a "Toll" is a personal attack.

Back in my day, it was acceptable to ask for clarification when one didn't understand an issue.
The angst in the Trans debate is baffling to me.

I wish people didn't twist the intent to suit their own personal narrative.

The Walrus vs the sea lion. It's the battle of the pinnipeds!

What does it matter that gender confirmation certificates may now be granted without any need for surgery or hormones? Personally I've never had someone ask for me papers before I'm allowed to enter the lavatory. So how easily obtainable these certificates are is irrelevant to that issue.

But they should be easily of obtainable if they are useful for any other purpose. JK Rowling says "be granted without any need for surgery or hormones" as though that's a bad thing.

Why should we make more difficult for them to obtain a certificate? Why throw another barrier in front of them? What if they can't afford hormones? What if they're a long waiting list? Should we say, "Sorry, you're not a real transexual unless you can afford expensive treatment or get to the end of a long waiting list"?

I'm sure TERFs want to make it more difficult for people to get surgery or hormone treatment so then they can't say "Aha! You didn't have surgery or hormone treatment, therefore you are eligible for a gender confirmation certificate!"

What if they're under 18? TERFs and other transphobes go ballistic over teenagers even recieving puberty blockers, which don't even produce an irreversible effect (puberty itself, produces an effect which is definitely irreversible) so they'd probably go ballistic if a teen was having hormone blockers or surgury.

So if a certificate was required for a trans high school student to use the correct bathroom and that certificate is available only after undergoing surgery or hormone treatment and that was only available after they turn 18 (plus waiting through whichever other barriers they put in the students way) the trans high school student would be forced to use the wrong bathroom.

Please check your PMs.

It's possible, like the same issue with the leftism having more likeliness for people to be up to no good, regardlessly that what they stand for is good values. Some vegetarians who try to convert the whole world. Anything can become a weapon.

Plus I think these extreme feelings towards some affiliation can be detrimental to the general public too. Like people can get so angry over them and it affects them deeply, instead of being able to accept differences, people as a whole and not be as defensive and emotionally linked to it. Sometimes it's not easy to open up to an idea, if you are too emotionally affected by something in the context, it stands in the way.

Honestly, the doors should have long been closed, to anyone, from a pov of being too prudish. It's nobodys business to be where I pee. Whether its a woman or a man or... well exception to dogs, but we must protect their sensitive minds.
At the same time I realize I'm a serial intruder in mens toilets, ever since ive been accompanying bae in because its awesome. There need to be couples toilets. Trans toilets, mixed toilets, Christian toilets, Atheist toilets, anti bully toilets, and bully toilets. There just isn't other way. We must be glad there are toilets, at all. I'm not very glad, it's uncomfortable to go in public. They NEED to be clean. I need to feel like I'm not gonna slip and fall 1 meter into my own poop and everybody else's and get a vaginal infection. I'm like, whats it like in mens rooms? Bae says "its even worse" at that time there was a pee puddle on the floor, you had to step in it, no paper for wiping, poop all along the toilet practically up to the ceiling, poop across the walls. Like a scene from star wars, mixed with iraq, but only because the toilet is like a mother ship waiting to recruit you and where it's going, you never know.

I'm really dumbfound at the latest "you're trans dont get into the same bathroom" argument, especially since the stalls are separate in womens rooms, but I guess because people get so emotional and perhaps don't understand transgender, education is lacking, its like flat earth believers. Of course im not excluding the fear of assault, but that fear is practically everywhere, and we don't get separate parking lots for women. I think the humiliation and dysphoria linked to entering mens rooms is unnecessary and unhealthy, so it needs to change. There need to be equal rights. And I really do not see how this change can be made until people accept that is much more important than being selectively prudish and having unreasonable fears. The whole label with men being abusive to women, and perverts (more than me). The unacceptance that transgender women are women, because their bodies are different. Criminals don't care about restrictions. Mothers, fathers, lovers don't care about restrictions. And besides, why dont men appear so much in public starting fights over these things all the time. They dont give themselves so much importance and their genitals.

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I wonder re this whether transmen are subjected to the same level of hate that transwomen are.

JK defended a woman who was against trans people. They simply didn't renew her contract. But it's become more clear she has bought into the TERF propaganda and thinks kids are becoming trans because they are gay instead. It's been in her tweets. So disappointing.

That isn't even true though, there are people born that don't fit into a specific biological sex.

This is posted to provide information,not because I agree with it.



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LG, while it may be disappointing, it is not as if Ms. Rowling has breached a contract that says, "I surrender my right to express my own opinions upon becoming a rich and famous celebrity."

While I do not agree with her terfish nonsense, I also know that Ms. Rowling never tried to commit a coup, take over a neighboring country, or enslave an entire population to turn out cheap knock-offs of patented and copyrighted materials.  No, she is only making a jennyass of herself by proclaiming her lack of sympathy with the trans community, and will eventually be persona non grata everywhere she goes . . . maybe even Harry Potter fan conventions.

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Why do you think this should be normal?  Not all of us are exhibitionists or voyeurs.

Most of us like our privacy.

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