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07 Jul 2022, 9:36 am

I’m fascinated by how many languages were equally represented. It was even interesting from a linguistics point of view.

“Unite humanity with a new living language.”

That’s not feasible or realistic, but it probably pissed off those who think English should have supremacy.

In any case, as a whole, the idealism reminds me of the song “Imagine.” It’s no wonder Yoko Ono liked it.



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07 Jul 2022, 9:54 am

There is irony in the facts that a man going by the surname of "Christian" commissioned the stones to be erected, and that a woman claiming to be a "Christian" wanted them demolished.



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07 Jul 2022, 9:59 am

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There is irony in the facts that a man going by the surname of "Christian" commissioned the stones to be erected, and that a woman claiming to be a "Christian" wanted them demolished.


I see similar inconsistencies regularly but on a much smaller, less destructive scale.

It’s just fascinating to me to see history repeating itself over and over again when it comes to the destruction of art due to religious ideological reasons.



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07 Jul 2022, 10:04 am

Twilightprincess wrote:
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There is irony in the facts that a man going by the surname of "Christian" commissioned the stones to be erected, and that a woman claiming to be a "Christian" wanted them demolished.
I see similar inconsistencies regularly but on a much smaller, less destructive scale.  It’s just fascinating to me to see history repeating itself over and over again when it comes to the destruction of art due to religious ideological reasons.
Yup, American Christianity certainly has its own version of the Taliban.



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07 Jul 2022, 10:09 am

According to Wikipedia . . .

In 2008, the stones were defaced with polyurethane paint and graffiti with slogans such as "Death to the New World Order".  Wired magazine called the defacement "the first serious act of vandalism in the guidestones' history".

In September 2014, an employee of the Elbert County maintenance department contacted the Federal Bureau of Investigation when the stones were vandalized with graffiti including the phrase "I Am Isis, goddess of love".  After the acts of vandalism, security cameras were installed on the site.

On May 1, 2022, Kandiss Taylor, a candidate running in the Georgia Republican gubernatorial primary, released a campaign ad calling for the destruction of the Guidestones.

On July 6, 2022, an explosion hit the stones, destroying the Swahili/Hindi language slab and causing significant damage to the capstone. Nearby residents reportedly heard and felt explosions at around 4:00 a.m.  CCTV footage recorded a vehicle leaving the scene and police are investigating the incident.  The remaining stones were dismantled by authorities later in the day with a backhoe for safety reasons.  Kandiss Taylor later attributed the partial destruction of the Guidestones to "an Act of God".

The Elbert County Sheriff's Office is investigating the bombing, with assistance from the Georgia Bureau of Investigation.  On the evening of the bombing, the GBI released a video showing both the explosion, and a vehicle of interest leaving the scene shortly before.  No motive has been publicly shared, and no suspects publicly identified.

As of July 6, 2022, no arrests had been made.



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07 Jul 2022, 10:33 am

The end result I figure - five more sets go up.


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07 Jul 2022, 12:06 pm

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Reasons I think the Georgia Guidestones were destroyed by lightning ⚡️.

1. In the security camera footage there’s a blue flash at the same time as the nearby light bulb pulses extremely bright… this is a known phenomena of the electrical interference of a lightning strike.

2. There was lightning recorded in the area at the time of the event.

3. No footage of anyone planting explosives was released (of course this can be fabricated later). This is likely because they didn’t HAVE any footage of explosives being planted.

4. The FBI and a “bomb squad” showed up to investigate… then promptly in the SAME DAY the remaining Guidestones where bulldozed down… on day ONE of a crime scene investigation?!? Yeah cuz that’s what you do… when there’s NOT a crime scene.

5. There is no visible soot, ash, or burn marks on the standing stones which were mere feet away from the stone that exploded.

Just based on these observations, I believe the likely answer is an act of God. However I wouldn’t be surprised for an “official narrative” to emerge claiming sabotage. Could I be wrong? Yes I could be. However, at this point these are simply my observations.


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07 Jul 2022, 12:11 pm

Lightning doesn’t like Jesus either.
https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2010/ ... burns-down


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07 Jul 2022, 12:16 pm

We are heading towards an age of unreason where political violence is viewed as the Fine Ol' Solution.


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07 Jul 2022, 12:41 pm

kitesandtrainsandcats wrote:
A sample from the web,

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Reasons I think the Georgia Guidestones were destroyed by lightning ⚡️.

1. In the security camera footage there’s a blue flash at the same time as the nearby light bulb pulses extremely bright… this is a known phenomena of the electrical interference of a lightning strike.

2. There was lightning recorded in the area at the time of the event.

3. No footage of anyone planting explosives was released (of course this can be fabricated later). This is likely because they didn’t HAVE any footage of explosives being planted.

4. The FBI and a “bomb squad” showed up to investigate… then promptly in the SAME DAY the remaining Guidestones where bulldozed down… on day ONE of a crime scene investigation?!? Yeah cuz that’s what you do… when there’s NOT a crime scene.

5. There is no visible soot, ash, or burn marks on the standing stones which were mere feet away from the stone that exploded.

Just based on these observations, I believe the likely answer is an act of God. However I wouldn’t be surprised for an “official narrative” to emerge claiming sabotage. Could I be wrong? Yes I could be. However, at this point these are simply my observations.


Where did you get this quote?



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07 Jul 2022, 12:56 pm

Twilightprincess wrote:
Where did you get this quote?


From the Community page of a YouTube channel about Biblical prophecy.

A few sample comments on that post, and, yes, they are deliberately selected for presentation here,
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You KNOW that "lightning" can also be man-made, right? Laser-weapon? Antimatter weapon? Electromagnetic or frequency strike? If there's not even a spot or mark on the stones then it doesn't quite look like regular "lightning" which would BURN some of it (heat!) and the earth around where it hit.
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By doing it the way He did it, he left proof (writing on the other slabs), of what their Evil plan is.
Also, I Don't understand CERN, but a dark hole was opened to another dimension on the 5th, and it was at the Hindi god location!
The Hindi slab was hit by lightening!!
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(excuse me, but the Hindi slab was Not hit by pregnancy, "light·en·ing /ˈlītniNG/noun: lightening; plural noun: lightenings a drop in the level of the uterus during the last weeks of pregnancy as the head of the fetus engages in the pelvis.") :roll:

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Yes, I agree it was a lightning strike, an act of God Allmighty! If some person wanted to destroy the thing, why only one slab and why the one with Hindu/Swahili language? Wouldn't English/Spanish be the obvious choice, so that most people can't read these "rules" anymore? I think God chose this particular slab because India is the one country with the most idolatry in the world. Africa I'm not sure about, but the country has been stricken by poverty for ages.
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(Africa is a country?) :?:

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There's a channel: Logic Before Authority. He's got 2 video's out, explaining the Same thing!!
Lightening; Act of God!!
CERN opened the hole(??) At the Hindi god location(??). I Don't understand all that, but it was the Hindi language slab, that was hit! No coincidences!
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They were not struck by lightning, they were clearly blown up. I did a lot of time in the Canadian infantry blowing stuff up in afghanistan. That was not a lightning strike.
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07 Jul 2022, 1:08 pm

kitesandtrainsandcats wrote:
Twilightprincess wrote:
Where did you get this quote?


From the Community page of a YouTube channel about Biblical prophecy.

A few sample comments on that post, and, yes, they are deliberately selected for presentation here,
"
You KNOW that "lightning" can also be man-made, right? Laser-weapon? Antimatter weapon? Electromagnetic or frequency strike? If there's not even a spot or mark on the stones then it doesn't quite look like regular "lightning" which would BURN some of it (heat!) and the earth around where it hit.
"

"
By doing it the way He did it, he left proof (writing on the other slabs), of what their Evil plan is.
Also, I Don't understand CERN, but a dark hole was opened to another dimension on the 5th, and it was at the Hindi god location!
The Hindi slab was hit by lightening!!
"
(excuse me, but the Hindi slab was Not hit by pregnancy, "light·en·ing /ˈlītniNG/noun: lightening; plural noun: lightenings a drop in the level of the uterus during the last weeks of pregnancy as the head of the fetus engages in the pelvis.") :roll:

"
Yes, I agree it was a lightning strike, an act of God Allmighty! If some person wanted to destroy the thing, why only one slab and why the one with Hindu/Swahili language? Wouldn't English/Spanish be the obvious choice, so that most people can't read these "rules" anymore? I think God chose this particular slab because India is the one country with the most idolatry in the world. Africa I'm not sure about, but the country has been stricken by poverty for ages.
"
(Africa is a country?) :?:

"
There's a channel: Logic Before Authority. He's got 2 video's out, explaining the Same thing!!
Lightening; Act of God!!
CERN opened the hole(??) At the Hindi god location(??). I Don't understand all that, but it was the Hindi language slab, that was hit! No coincidences!
"


Some people are nuts.



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07 Jul 2022, 4:58 pm

When people start claiming that an act of vandalism or violence is God's will, I ask them how long they have been God's Chosen Prophet.  When they say they are not, then I ask them why they believe that God's will was involved.

When they claim the Gift of Prophesy, I ask them -- in Jesus' name -- to show me The Sign.  When they finally admit they cannot, I quote Matthew 7:15.

"Watch out for false prophets.  They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves."

They usually stop "prophesying" at that point.



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07 Jul 2022, 10:52 pm

The Guidestones will be rebuilt.



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07 Jul 2022, 11:01 pm

It’s already in the works.
https://www.onlineathens.com/story/news ... 828357001/


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07 Jul 2022, 11:02 pm

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They're not a "monument". They're a sculpture,

That appears to be a matter of personal and organizational semantics.
Maybe worldview too, but probably mostly semantics.

The Chamber of Commerce of the county where they were names them as a monument,
https://elbertchamber.com/visit/play-he ... uidestones
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The Georgia Guidestones

The Georgia Guidestones is probably the most unusual monument ever produced in the Elberton area. Not only is its massive size larger than any single other monument of record manufactured here, the circumstances surrounding its origin, completion, and erection have undoubtedly caused more speculation and comment than any of the other millions of granite memorials produced in Elberton since the area’s famed Granite Industry started.

How it all Began

Joe Fendley, president of Elbert Granite Finishing Company, Inc. in Elberton, Georgia was approached by a neatly dressed man who wanted to buy a monument. The middle-aged man who identified himself as Mr. Robert C. Christian said he wanted to know the cost of building a monument to the conservation of mankind and began telling Fendley what type of monument he wanted. ...
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The BBC uses monument,
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-62073675
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A granite monument in the US state of Georgia has been demolished for safety reasons after being damaged in a blast.
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In 2013 the Smithsonian used monument,
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-ne ... a-5592082/
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And yet despite the confusion and mystery—or perhaps because of it—the monument has a devoted community dedicated to figuring out just what the mysterious rocks are for. And, like most conspiracy theories, the quest will probably never end.
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Artnet News calls them rock art, artwork, sculpture, and monument.
But is it odd for an art newspaper to refer to a thing as art?
https://news.artnet.com/art-world/georg ... ed-2143456
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Mysterious Georgia Rock Art Formation—Considered by Some the ‘American Stonehenge’ and by Others the Work of Satan—Has Been Destroyed
A conservative politician recently made a campaign promise to demolish the artwork, which she believes is satanic in nature.
Sarah Cascone, July 7, 2022
The Georgia Guidestones, a mysterious public artwork sometimes called the “American Stonehenge,” are no more. In the early hours on Wednesday, unknown individuals detonated a bomb that severely damaged the sculpture that stood in Elberton, Georgia for more than 40 years.
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The monument became a cornerstone—pun intended—of Taylor’s unsuccessful governors bid.
“I am the ONLY candidate bold enough to stand up to the Luciferian Cabal,” Taylor wrote on Twitter. “Elect me Governor of Georgia, and I will bring the Satanic Regime to its knees—and DEMOLISH the Georgia Guidestones.”
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The Art Newspaper uses both sculpture and monument,
https://www.theartnewspaper.com/2022/07 ... es-bombing
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Roadside sculpture in Georgia that some believed to be a satanic monument demolished following early-morning bombing
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Looking at that, it appears that whether the stones are monument or sculpture ultimately depends, and somewhat variably, upon the publishing organization's stylebook and the vocabulary of the writer.


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