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There is.

Someone told me they were gonna kill me once because I was a 'transexual fa***t.'

Not for me either or anyone wether their sexual orientation is, that's because if there is a God (and I hope is a she ) she/he doesn't condemn homosexuality, people do.

i think the concept of resist sex outside of marriage is completely diff than denying/accepting who you're sexually attracted to...

the first is just a matter of principle and will power

to reverse the second would take considerable willpower to abide by.... but that's all youd be doing... abiding... you'd never reap the benefits of enjoying sex with a partner of the opposite sex... just as a hetero wouldn't really ever enjoy sex with someone of the same sex....

it would always be forced


and i have heard that god made sex pleasurable for a reason... (yes yes within marriage of course.......) so why should a foced-conversion gay-to-straight person have to suffer unpleasurable sex??????

cause clearly.... bad sex is one of the worst things in the world!

If this Christian god did exist, I wouldn't bother paying any attention to it anyway.

you could take em
ragtime-God/and or christians can kiss the fattest part of my ass
marrage is stupid and I wont have it
sex is a normal thing
and your born gay/bi whatever
no bi person is 50/50
it changes with me
sometimes I like women more and sometimes its guys
I feel more gay in the sence as I see more in men (sexually and emotionally) and like them better that way overall
I wont act a certail way because a magic man I dont beleive in was said to write a book full of s**t telling me if I dont go by the rules I will go to hell
sounds facist to me

@ kilroy

if you're gonna demand no gay bashing......... there should be no name calling and damning of their religion...

or at least do be so flat out about it....

edit: rereading... i dont think what you said is so bad... other than singling someone out... but at least get some thicker skin for taking comments regarding your sexuality... as it is a heated topic

Last edited by Sedaka on 07 Aug 2007, 9:49 pm, edited 1 time in total.

oohh okay...sorry-I was really mad
your right of cource

Firstly, please calm down.

Secondly, you're missing my connection to the analogous sinful area I DO struggle with: the doctrine "no sex outside of marriage". My point was that my gland-induced desire to do every woman from here to California does not damn me, even though none of them is my wife. Glands can't see marital boundaries, and God, more than anyone else, knows that. But He says that I HAVE TO CHOOSE between my GLANDS and my GOD. My glands tell me to live Mr. Heffner's dream. God, in my spirit, tells me to "deny myself, and follow" Him (Matt 16:24). Is God crazy? No. He's simply smarter than our glands. You use your brain not to do every impulse that you get, right? Well, God is the brain of the body of our morality.


Again, a man being attracted to men is not a sin, just like it's not a sin that I'm attracted to women to whom I'm not married. The sin is the anti-biblical pursuit of EITHER ONE of those things. Being a Christian is about sacrifice. In this life, that's the whole point. Sacrifice your time and energy to help others, and sacrifice to God by submitting your own will to His -- voluntarily.

What you're rejecting is specifically God's authority to tell us to u-turn from some of our bodily desires. It's the authority you have a problem with. Kids, by nature, do stupid things. When their parents correct them, it's often utterly illogical to the child. So who's opinion should win, the parents', or the child's? (Please don't evade this question.)



Now you see why a fundamental heart change is necessary. God's message of salvation is that WE CAN'T believe that certain urges should be redirected UNLESS we formally make Him the LORD of our lives. That means supreme master. I'm fully willing to do that, and be His servant.

Last edited by Ragtime on 07 Aug 2007, 9:56 pm, edited 4 times in total.

We have to take into consideration that there are a few christians that accept homosexuality, there are some churches that accept gay people to live their sexuality as the way they are meant to be, that's a good thing, sadly I think there are little of them, that change is taking a lot of time.

uh Ragtime-I dont beleive God has anything to do with my desires
as I dont beleive he exists
I wont have anything I beleive non existant telling me what to do
and telling me how to live
I dont care what you, my dad or anyone says
I dont think there is a god and I will sure as hell not praise his name or anything

to address the rest of this post.......

plz see my other post on the differences between abstinance and denying/accepting your sexual preference.

Yeah. I can't think of any logical reason why being gay would be 'wrong.' Therefore I'm not going to blindly follow some imaginary man who's supposedly telling me to pretend to be straight and go and screw some guy instead.

right on Soph...
(we need a rainbow flag in here)

at anyrate.....

you miss my point. i fully understand you dont think the inclination itself is the sin.... but the actions

my point is... what is the life of ACTING (denying) really worth?

what if you did everything full heartedly but were still plagued with these gay feelings.... i have a suspicion they'd always be there



and honestly, i dont really think you can fathom homosexual attraction until youve had sex with a man....

and even then, i doubt you can really fathom what it would be like to be in a relationship with a man and have that the rest of your life.



would you have homosexual sex the rest of your life if it would get you into heaven?