Is the US as tolerant as the UK ?

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Neither the US nor the UK are as multicultural as Canada.

The UK is very multicultural. However it is generally only in the cities where different cultures live. There are still vast ares of the UK that are 100% white- all the towns, villages in the countryside. This is our problem.

When I lived in London, everyone was different and therefore very tolerant of each other.

When I moved to this small village, they still call people 'coloured' and 99% of people are white, middle or upper class. Very cliquey. Multiculture hasn't reached Little England yet! And Brexit has made racism much worse.

Some of the whitest areas of the UK are the most working class and poorest.

A area of the UK being prominently white is neither good or bad but just how the demographics of an area turned out over time.

Insinuating that entire geographical areas must be racist just because a large number of a certain race lives there is racist.

Also, ethnic minorities seem to enjoy more safety in these supposed racist areas than place like London.

These protesters are breaking fairly old, common sense laws and causing a lot of disruption to everyday people.

The police are being too light handed on protestors who are breaking these laws. Yesterday someone ran a protestor over because they keep breaking these laws.

Trust me some parts of Canada are also very white. The big deal with Canada is that they apparently established Multiculturalism as a government policy in the 1970s, there's even a Multiculturalism monument in Toronto. Why this happened was that the country was at risk of splitting apart by linguistic groups. It had nothing to do with immigration etc. Almost everyone involved was either white or mixed white/aboriginal.

It’s hard to know whether the chicken came before the egg, isn’t it? Are people in the countryside racist because they don’t have the life experience of people who live in cities, or did they move to the countryside because they’re racist?

Personally I’m inclined towards the former, rather than the latter. The issue isn’t some inherent character flaw in rural populations, it’s that rural life just doesn’t foster tolerance of difference the way that city life does. There are of course nice and intelligent people who have overcome the disadvantage of being born or raised in deprived, isolated areas. If they moved to the city then most people would quickly realise that their fears about immigrants and ethnic minorities were simple ignorance. We shouldn’t be too quick to condemn people who are merely ignorant.

Given time, fewer and fewer people will be born into these all-white deprived areas and society will become more tolerant as people naturally gravitate towards more productive, diverse areas.


If it was already illegal then why do they keep changing the law?

To be honest I think it’s complete nonsense to say the police are being too light handed. It shows ignorance of the situation. The mass arrests at protests and even at vigils, people being arrested for holding up signs, people being arrested for wearing t-shirts - the police are out of control.

Bit strange to cite the example of someone running over a protester as evidence that protests have gone too far, when it’s obviously an example of counter-protesters engaging in serious violence that should be punished with a long prison sentence.

But again you're assuming they're racist for being in a largely white area. Evidence? It's incredibly racist and xenophobic to see people who live outside of cities, in mainly white areas as naturally racist because they haven't been "enlighted" by metropolitan living and are......white? Do white people outside of cities drag their knuckles along the floor or something too and are yet to discover fire or invent the wheel?


I live in an almost entirely white semi-urban area and I don't notice any serious racism. You hear the odd word like "coloured" but this is from only the elderly and it's a dated but neutral term they used their entire life. Other than a bit of a culture clash or occasional antiquated but neutral language, nothing bad seems to happen to minorities here. If anything they disproportionately own business and property. Some of them are absolutely loaded in my town.

Our legal system is what causes problems enforcing the law. We use a system of common law. Despite the legislation being clear, judges are not enforcing it as they have a right to interpret the law and set it in stone in common law. Legislation often has to be passed clarifying what the law actually should be.

If we didn't have common law, the current laws will be more likely to be upheld at the expense of not having prior cases to draw on.

Nope, not making that assumption at all - it's a fact that people in rural areas tend to be more bigoted than people in urban areas. Don't try and make this about race. They're not bigoted because they're white, they're bigoted because they live shallow, sheltered existences and don't know any better.

https://www.birmingham.ac.uk/documents/ ... er-130.pdf
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-dorset-57611781

You're a white conservative living in rural Wales. Forgive me if I find your assertions of "no racism here!" to be less than entirely convincing.

My mum grew up on a farm outside a small town in Wales. I've heard the stories from her childhood. I've heard plenty from black and Asian people who grew up in similar environments. And of course there's no end of news stories...
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wale ... t-25464942
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-64152918
https://www.itv.com/news/wales/2022-09- ... t-graffiti
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wale ... d-23611085
https://www.itv.com/news/wales/2022-07- ... -at-school
https://www.northwaleschronicle.co.uk/n ... -tregarth/


This doesn't seem right - have you missed all the controversies about judges preventing juries from hearing evidence or testimony that may make them feel favourably towards the defendants, or even hearing about their right to acquit?

https://realmedia.press/right-to-acquit-on-conscience/

Unfortunately in recent years the judiciary in this country have become activists, abandoning rationality and impartiality under pressure from the increasingly extremist Conservative Party. It's a shame, as for many years we have had a proud tradition of judicial independence in this country, but politicians and the press have tried to get rid of it.

Again, actual evidence? I'm sure any study you find will fall flat on its face if I find the serious assault and murder rate of ethnic minorities in supposedly "tolerant" cities.

You're in more danger being black in London than you are in a Welsh mining town.......by a long margin.

Unless you are also English

At about the size of Oregon state, which is approximately 1/4 the size of British Columbia or 1/41st the size of Canada it seems to me that the problem of a lack of multiculturalism in the UK must be one of geographic mobility that would be extremely easily solved with automobiles, or even bicycles with a few rests in between hours of pedalling.. or perhaps some happy medium with the introduction of motorcycles for a much more fun mode of transportation. With a distance of only 1,000km at its farthest it’s driveable/rideable in a single day, 2 if your legs cramp up or it starts raining too heavily.

With such a tiny area and so many people all they have to do is move about a little bit throughout the day/week and they’ll all get to know each other a whole lot better and won’t be so scared of the others that look diff’rent or worship/talk funny.

Bicycles Motorcycles for the UK to end intolerance!

Sounds like that someone needs to be charged.

"Multiculturalism" doesn't just mean skin colour.
It means different cultural backgrounds.
In fact, black people can be third, fourth or even fifth generation "Canadian".



WHITE PEOPLE:



White people can be Russian, Ukrainian, South African, Croatian, Serbian, Italian, Polish, or from any other country.
Their religion and cultural practice can vary greatly.
Some of those countries are at war.


The prairie provinces, for instance, have a high Ukrainian population.






INDIGENOUS:

Indigenous people are not one homogenous group, and they live in every province and territory, including the south.
















MULTICULTURALISM:





Here are some Ethnocultural stats from statcan.gc.ca:


https://www12.statcan.gc.ca/nhs-enm/201 ... 01-eng.cfm





















REFUGEES:

More to than likely will be if he injured someone. So far it looked like a tyre over a foot after making his intentions clear he wanted to go through though. Might make it difficult to do much about it.

Ideally next time, the driver will get dragged out of their car and catch the beatdown they deserve.

Looked like he was carrying forward at a very slow speed and one of the protesters kept pushing against the car. Only reason the foot was run over was because of the one particular protester himself.

Difficult to really know who's at fault. The car looked already "past" the protest line and he should have been let through.