The U.S. conservative movement's authoritarian plans

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Tim_Tex
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14 Sep 2023, 11:02 am

I'm a Lutheran (Christian, but not Evangelical or Catholic), so I would be considered an apostate, which would be considered worse than being a non-believer.


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14 Sep 2023, 1:28 pm

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It's preemptive strike time: designate the Southern Baptist Convention, the Roman Catholic Church, and the Mormon Church as terrorist organizations.


100%. Especially the Roman Catholic Church. It sickens me to see how many people live under religious and existential fear due to these guys, not to mention the DECADES of technological and social progress that has been set back due to them. It's really really sick.


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14 Sep 2023, 4:49 pm



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14 Sep 2023, 11:40 pm

We need to be a far-left, anarchist nation to rid ourselves of Trumpism.


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15 Sep 2023, 12:32 am

Tim_Tex wrote:
It's preemptive strike time: designate the Southern Baptist Convention, the Roman Catholic Church, and the Mormon Church as terrorist organizations.


Except that the organization that's relevant is the Heritage Foundation.


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15 Sep 2023, 4:19 am

funeralxempire wrote:
Tim_Tex wrote:
It's preemptive strike time: designate the Southern Baptist Convention, the Roman Catholic Church, and the Mormon Church as terrorist organizations.


Except that the organization that's relevant is the Heritage Foundation.


At least one of those groups is likely connected to Heritage.


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15 Sep 2023, 12:55 pm

Tim_Tex wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Tim_Tex wrote:
It's preemptive strike time: designate the Southern Baptist Convention, the Roman Catholic Church, and the Mormon Church as terrorist organizations.


Except that the organization that's relevant is the Heritage Foundation.


At least one of those groups is likely connected to Heritage.


I'm sure there's members of all three within the membership of HF, but that doesn't mean those broader organizations make the best target.

If the Muslim Brotherhood was the threat, you wouldn't go after every mosque, you'd go after the Muslim Brotherhood.
If the NSDAP was the threat, you'd go after the party, not the various religious organizations it's members belong to.


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13 Nov 2023, 11:40 pm

Trump compares political opponents to 'vermin' who he will 'root out,' alarming historians

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Former President Donald Trump vowed this weekend to "root out" his political opponents, who he said "live like vermin" as he warned supporters that America's greatest threats come "from within" -- extreme rhetoric that echoes the words of fascist dictators like Adolf Hitler and Benito Mussolini, experts and Trump's critics said.

A Trump campaign spokesman dismissed the backlash to his speech, at a Veterans Day rally in New Hampshire, but some historians said the parallels were alarming.

"To call your opponent 'vermin,' to dehumanize them, is to not only open the door but to walk through the door toward the most ghastly kinds of crimes," writer and historian Jon Meacham said on MSNBC's "Morning Joe."

Speaking to a packed crowd inside Stevens High School auditorium in Claremont, New Hampshire, on Saturday, Trump, who is seeking a second term in the White House, said: "We will put America first and today, especially in honor of our great veterans on Veterans Day, we pledge to you that we will root out the communists, Marxists, fascists and the radical left thugs that live like vermin within the confines of our country."

The comments received immediate pushback, both from critics who have long challenged Trump's habit of attacking others with hyperbolic insults and from historians who said his latest remarks had an unsettling resemblance to those of infamous authoritarians.

"Please tell us if this reminds you of any earlier historical figure," NBC's presidential historian Michael Beschloss wrote on X.

The comments received immediate pushback, both from critics who have long challenged Trump's habit of attacking others with hyperbolic insults and from historians who said his latest remarks had an unsettling resemblance to those of infamous authoritarians.

"Please tell us if this reminds you of any earlier historical figure," NBC's presidential historian Michael Beschloss wrote on X.

"It doesn't echo 'Mein Kampf.' This is textbook 'Mein Kampf,'" Yale University professor Jason Stanley, author of "How Fascism Works," said about Trump's comments on MSNBC. Stanley was referring to a book published by Hitler before his rise to power.

"Trump's comments are remarkably evocative particularly of Hitler's rants against Marxists and socialists -- Hitler also decried pro-democratic forces as Marxist," Stanley told ABC News.

"In another regard, this is worse than Nazi propaganda," he said. "Bear in mind that there was actually a communist anti-democratic threat in Europe in the 1920s and '30s, and there is none in America today."

In a statement, Trump spokesperson Steven Cheung rejected the comparisons to Hitler and Mussolini.

"Those who try to make that ridiculous assertion are clearly snowflakes grasping for anything because they are suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome and their sad, miserable existence will be crushed when President Trump returns to the White House," Cheung said.

At the Veterans Day rally, while talking about legal challenges he's facing, Trump also floated the possibility of retribution against his political enemies if he returns to the White House, though he said, "I don't want to do that."


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14 Nov 2023, 4:05 am

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Yes...that sort of comment is straight from Hitler's speeches...WTF is wrong with the people who vote for Trump and his buddies?? <--that is a rhetorical question. I know they are extreme fascists.


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14 Nov 2023, 4:37 am

KitLily wrote:
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Yes...that sort of comment is straight from Hitler's speeches...WTF is wrong with the people who vote for Trump and his buddies?? <--that is a rhetorical question. I know they are extreme fascists.


And there are no non-violent ways to deprogram these people.


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14 Nov 2023, 9:14 am

Tim_Tex wrote:
KitLily wrote:
Yes...that sort of comment is straight from Hitler's speeches...WTF is wrong with the people who vote for Trump and his buddies?? <--that is a rhetorical question. I know they are extreme fascists.


And there are no non-violent ways to deprogram these people.


That is so worrying...


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14 Nov 2023, 12:57 pm

KitLily wrote:
Tim_Tex wrote:
KitLily wrote:
Yes...that sort of comment is straight from Hitler's speeches...WTF is wrong with the people who vote for Trump and his buddies?? <--that is a rhetorical question. I know they are extreme fascists.


And there are no non-violent ways to deprogram these people.


That is so worrying...


And it would be tens of millions of people that would need deprogramming.


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14 Nov 2023, 1:21 pm

I've seen american polls that show Trump winning in 2025 is becoming likelier and likelier. of course, project 2025 is a very complex multi-step plan with a million places where it could go wrong, but it still makes me worry. My very existence would be illegal under their ideal government.


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14 Nov 2023, 1:40 pm

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I've seen american polls that show Trump winning in 2025 is becoming likelier and likelier. of course, project 2025 is a very complex multi-step plan with a million places where it could go wrong, but it still makes me worry. My very existence would be illegal under their ideal government.

Are you some kind of criminal or something?



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14 Nov 2023, 2:13 pm

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Readydaer wrote:
I've seen american polls that show Trump winning in 2025 is becoming likelier and likelier. of course, project 2025 is a very complex multi-step plan with a million places where it could go wrong, but it still makes me worry. My very existence would be illegal under their ideal government.

Are you some kind of criminal or something?


I'm transgender.


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14 Nov 2023, 2:48 pm

If Trump and co want to put LGBTQ+ people in jail, it will mean that people will have to spy on others and tell the police. It will be a police state with everyone having to keep their lives secret again, like in historical times where people were accused of things and put into jail according to the word of others.

We don't want to go backwards in time.


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