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23 Aug 2007, 8:35 pm

Without those cults, they'd have no simple excuse to fall back on.



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23 Aug 2007, 8:40 pm

I agree that we need to stop taking our religions to extremes. We need to stop taking all viewpoints to extremes. We all need to be moderate and get along.



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23 Aug 2007, 8:42 pm

snake321 wrote:
Without those cults, they'd have no simple excuse to fall back on.


Then make a cult no one can disagree with.

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23 Aug 2007, 8:45 pm

We could use think tanks to de-brainwash people. We'll progress much faster if people are willing to deal with the facts rather than follow proven lies. The goal of humanity should be to create a society free of cognitive suffering, where all people are equal and can live in harmony and peace, and brotherly love. A world where everyone looks out for their neighbor, where acknowledgement of the healing power of life and free will are reguarded as the highest standards of morality. But being in a cult isn't free will, even if theyr brainwashed to think that it is. I say this not out of hate for them, but rather out of love. I don't wish to sound arrogant, but I can't help but feel pity for those who are unable to think with their own minds.
I am far from perfect myself, but I realise this. When I see a fault in my behavior I work to change it, in order to be a better person. Though I sometimes struggle with frustration, being on the outside looking in, of how humans treat each other. Some may call me bad things for saying this, but I after years of isolation and being tossed out of the human race for being autistic, I starve for balance, peace, and tranquility. And in some odd way, I can't help but feel compassion for all people. And when I see people do bad things to one another, sometimes I just feel like breaking down and crying..... Of coarse I cope through smoking weed.
I have analyzed and analyzed everything about the things going on around to bare to the bone, with logic as my referee between the emotions of the scattered and sub-divided masses. I am tired of ignorance, I am tired of people abusing each other, I am tired of division. I only want to see people compromise and come to the facts to seek universal brotherhood. Yet, I know this is just a dream...... This is the only fact I struggle with now.



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23 Aug 2007, 8:51 pm

Some may think it is impossible, but I have intellectually risen beyond bias, as I have longed for answers for so long in my lifetime, and have been so vigilantly in the persuit of knowledge and enlightenment..... Things like religions, culture, pop-culture, political ideologies, the keep people further away from the grand truth in how people should get along. They program people to think inside boxes, and thinking inside a box is ignorant.
I mean come on, how ignorant is it to think one has all the answers to the universe? The smartest man to ever live, albert einstein, was in the cosmic scheme of things nothing more than an idiot. We are but human beings, nothing more, nothing less.



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23 Aug 2007, 8:56 pm

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We could use think tanks to de-brainwash people. We'll progress much faster if people are willing to deal with the facts rather than follow proven lies. The goal of humanity should be to create a society free of cognitive suffering, where all people are equal and can live in harmony and peace, and brotherly love. A world where everyone looks out for their neighbor, where acknowledgement of the healing power of life and free will are reguarded as the highest standards of morality. But being in a cult isn't free will, even if theyr brainwashed to think that it is. I say this not out of hate for them, but rather out of love. I don't wish to sound arrogant, but I can't help but feel pity for those who are unable to think with their own minds.
I am far from perfect myself, but I realise this. When I see a fault in my behavior I work to change it, in order to be a better person. Though I sometimes struggle with frustration, being on the outside looking in, of how humans treat each other. Some may call me bad things for saying this, but I after years of isolation and being tossed out of the human race for being autistic, I starve for balance, peace, and tranquility. And in some odd way, I can't help but feel compassion for all people. And when I see people do bad things to one another, sometimes I just feel like breaking down and crying..... Of coarse I cope through smoking weed.
I have analyzed and analyzed everything about the things going on around to bare to the bone, with logic as my referee between the emotions of the scattered and sub-divided masses. I am tired of ignorance, I am tired of people abusing each other, I am tired of division. I only want to see people compromise and come to the facts to seek universal brotherhood. Yet, I know this is just a dream...... This is the only fact I struggle with now.


You sound just like me. I understand why you're bitter at organized religions... and I hate how they've been turned into gigantic social cliques. The thing that separates me from you is that I still believe in the base roots of Christianity, which were to love others, whereas you've rejected them because of "Christian" unkindness (I assume). I too want universal brotherhood... but it won't be accomplished until the way most humans think is changed. Again, perhaps Asperger's has something to do with that.



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23 Aug 2007, 8:56 pm

snake321 wrote:
We could use think tanks to de-brainwash people. We'll progress much faster if people are willing to deal with the facts rather than follow proven lies. The goal of humanity should be to create a society free of cognitive suffering, where all people are equal and can live in harmony and peace, and brotherly love. A world where everyone looks out for their neighbor, where acknowledgement of the healing power of life and free will are reguarded as the highest standards of morality. But being in a cult isn't free will, even if theyr brainwashed to think that it is. I say this not out of hate for them, but rather out of love. I don't wish to sound arrogant, but I can't help but feel pity for those who are unable to think with their own minds.
I am far from perfect myself, but I realise this. When I see a fault in my behavior I work to change it, in order to be a better person. Though I sometimes struggle with frustration, being on the outside looking in, of how humans treat each other. Some may call me bad things for saying this, but I after years of isolation and being tossed out of the human race for being autistic, I starve for balance, peace, and tranquility. And in some odd way, I can't help but feel compassion for all people. And when I see people do bad things to one another, sometimes I just feel like breaking down and crying..... Of coarse I cope through smoking weed.
I have analyzed and analyzed everything about the things going on around to bare to the bone, with logic as my referee between the emotions of the scattered and sub-divided masses. I am tired of ignorance, I am tired of people abusing each other, I am tired of division. I only want to see people compromise and come to the facts to seek universal brotherhood. Yet, I know this is just a dream...... This is the only fact I struggle with now.


You sound just like me. I understand why you're bitter at organized religions... and I hate how they've been turned into gigantic social cliques. The thing that separates me from you is that I still believe in the base roots of Christianity, which were to love others, whereas you've rejected them because of "Christian" unkindness (I assume). I too want universal brotherhood... but it won't be accomplished until the way most humans think is changed. Again, perhaps Asperger's has something to do with that. Just a theory.



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23 Aug 2007, 10:36 pm

I didn't really say I hated all of them as people. I kind of see it like this, lets say you have a friend named Tom.... Tom is a really great guy, good head on his shoulders, has direction, ambission, wisdom beyond his years. This guy can go places.
However, one day Tom's mother dies, and this throws him into a deep state of depression, he's desperately looking for something to grab onto, someone to understand him.... Then he meets a local gang leader who provides him a new family, and Tom becomes a drug addict, a gang banger, a lost cause......

As his friend, how would you feel? If you were truely his friend, would you feel sympathy for him at first (in the beginning)? Wouldn't you feel like asking him "hey kid, why are you doing this to yourself? I know you can do better than this". But in all honesty, it can be a dangerous gesture to question his affiliation. You know he's gonna go on to do bad things though.

Well in real life, Christians might not always go onto do bad things, but a significant portion of them will. Rather the good Christian goes bad or not, he's still affiliated with the gang. I don't hold it against him as a human being because he doesn't intrude on me, but many of his brothers and sisters do, and their ideology generates a lot of hate and negativity, and them I do have a problem with...



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23 Aug 2007, 11:04 pm

The question is, how far are will you take this? It will be very hard to exterminate Christianity without exterminating Christians themselves. Islam causes a lot of hatred, too. What about them?



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24 Aug 2007, 7:44 am

Islam falls in to the same category as Christianity, it's a dangerous cult.



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24 Aug 2007, 8:31 am

You can't exterminate a religion, you can only deal with people's needs. Talking about relgion this religion that - as you can see with ragtime - has zero effect.

If you talk about feelings, aspirations, hopes, fears, death, then maybe you will get somewhere.

In terms of enforcement, the only thing I would advocate is that a society promotoes individualism - i.e people should expect to think completely different from the person next to them because everyone is different.



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26 Aug 2007, 8:36 am

Unfortunately, it is human nature to be contentious - all the wars we've had over the years have only gone to prove this. True co-operation seems to be the exception rather than the rule so is therefore more to be celebrated when it does happen to occur.


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