I'm a Communist, how about you?

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Haha, that's because it's a half baked ideology which would never work in actuality. Remember Margaret Thatcher?

A libertarian democratic socialist?

..... I have a hard time understanding how an aspie would want a totalitarian government, we ask way too many questions to not get our heads chopped off in a dictatorship, and it's always intellectual minorities who they choose to persecute... Like in Nazi Germany, much of the anti-jewish sentiment was already there to some degree in anti-intellectualism, as jews were reguarded as an unusually intelligent minority (much like we are as aspies).

I'd choose a technocracy if I could choose anything, my next choice would be a socialist democracy.

No, technically speaking they aren't. I think that communism and anarchism are supposed to be technically similar but usage has differed, especially given that not all forms of philosophies that espouse an elimination of government are communistic. Anarchy means without government, but the original greek form means "without leaders".

That randomness dealt with, I would probably fall more in line with a libertarian republic. Really, I think that the minarchist government type is missing and that some overlap in categories tends to exist.

We also tend to be more ethical than the average person so totalitarian governments would probably feed on our need for law and order. You assume anti-intellectualism as an inherent trait in totalitarian systems and it very well may end up being so but I would think that an aspie that did not see that as true could go in line with that.


The Libertarian National Socialist Green Party does exist.

Do you mean that all other ideologies aren't half-baked? I mean, come on, most of them hold a significant flaw in them that could potentially cause the devastation of mankind and likely because the clay we try to shape our societies with is self-destructive. Technically, you don't remember Margaret Thatcher(you've read about her but that is not direct memory) and the people you talk to are Americans who might have never really heard of her(although it is likely they have) much less remember anything about her. I suppose you can use her on some level to attack free market ideas but there would have to be some effort to look at specific issues and establish the entire ground for this matter.

*applause*

<sigh> I'll bite my tongue (I taste blood) as to not to launch into a scathing critque of most of the forms of government listed. None of them work in the long run.

The (non) system of government I want is this: NO human claims to rule over me, and have no desire to rule over other humans. Where does that leave me?

Good fortune,

- Icarus Is Not Human, and Governments are for Humans

Felinocracy - Only form of government approved by The Great Cat God

need I say more?

So, you are an anarchist? I have been looking into the idea but somewhat philosophically. Governments are set up for the purpose of justice, justice is unprovable, all humans have individual ideas upon it that are often from our knowledge no better or worse than that of their fellow man, therefore there is little reason to set up an organization for an end that is unknowable and thus it is better to let men work on their own desires freely and set them before nothing or objective truth alone. If we assume that justice is X, then we cannot prove it and cannot really disprove those who think that justice is Y, and if true justice is one, the other, or neither, then to enforce false justice could easily be injustice and philosophically our chances of being wrong are high and the dangers of damnation for all are not worth it, especially given that even if truly just principles were found that they could be weakened or damaged by those who believe in X or Y and pervert the just for the unjust. Those are just some of my thoughts, hopefully not too stupid.

Icarus is technically a member of the human species, the real question has nothing to do with species but rather with moral assumptions and ideas following from those moral assumptions.

Great to see you back to kicking ass AG.

We missed you.

A dictatorship is not necessarily repressive. Historically, they usually have been, but it needn't always be the case. Dictatorship simply means that the duties and powers currently distributed between Congress, W, and the Supreme Court would instead be consolidated into one person. That one person could choose to permit intellectual freedom, and to allow freedom of travel and ensure the privacy and property rights of citizens. Perhaps a Constitutional Dicatorship to limit their powers? I personally am willing to accept any form of government which promotes a steady, secure and safe environment without compromising the rights of individuals. If one person with total control over all aspects of politics is able to handle that, then I have no problem with it. The main issue we would face is what to do when that person dies/ hands over power to his little brother.

Maybe not, but anarchy doesn't even work in the short run. There are plenty of individuals (and you claim to be one of them) who do not need government interference in their lives. But other people do, and without that interference, some of those people might start causing problems for you. If none of these systems works in the long run, why don't we just cycle through them to get the short-term benefits of each?

I understand that. I am not so small-minded as to not understand the shortcomings of what I want for myself, when it is applied to the masses, or, more specifically, to humans. I understand that most humans need a nanny's hand to guide their lives, tell them what is right and wrong, tell them what is good for them or not, think for them, and so on. But, I'm selfish. Part of what I want, is for the masses to be eliminated. I don't like humans. I don't like them infesting my world, interfering in my business, telling me how to run my life, telling me that I must slave for them (i.e. taxes and fines), and so on, and so forth. ALL I want, is to be left alone; my want is very simple. But... there is no place left for me to go, if that is all that I want. If the burden associated with this is to need to defend myself any my own, I am happy and willing to do so, or die in the attempt. Such is the way of things. Such is the way of nature. Such is the dance between predator and prey.

But, I ask that you please don't confuse me with someone who should be careful for what he wishes for, lest he get it. I can fight humans, or at least try; I cannot fight governments; such attempts are futile.


You're right, of course; but I hate my place as a member of this species. I am envious of the wolf, or the bear, or the moose, as they wander past "No Trespassing" signs with full excuse, because human laws do not seem to bind them.

And here's a very interesting question, that has pertinent meaning to this very community: What of my son, who is autistic to the degree that he is entirely unable to communicate? He cannot conceive of human law. Is it right that such should bind him? Is he liable for taxes? Is he meat for the machine, like the rest of us? He is... An interesting case.


It is the closest approximation of what I want that can be distilled to a single word. As I mentioned, I really just want nobody ruling over me, and I in turn, do not want to rule over everyone. I am cognizant enough of reality to realize this is a crazy dream. It is human nature both to want to rule, and to need to be ruled. I am... different in this respect. In all, I do not belong here, belong among you. BUT, here I am, so I must deal with my current situation, and my ultimate fate.


Not at all. You basically describe the legal system in most "civilized" places.

In all, friends, yes... My own "political" aspirations are just as broken as everyone else, and I understand this. Mark this down to me being an idealist rat trapped in a tiny cage, compelled to run in a tiny wheel each day, yearning for freedom. Real freedom, not the illusion of this. And, yes, I understand the price and responsibilities that come with such. It is a mad, crazy dream. But it is still my dream, and I stick by it.

"Give me liberty, or kill me... If you can." - Me

Fun stuff.

Good fortune,

- Icarus the Mad who Dreams of Freedom...

If I were to run a country, I would make it quite totalitarian. People say I would be worse than Hitler.

What about Meritocracy?

Anything to replace our current Mediocracy in America. People in America are lazy! no one gives a hoot anymore, they want everything, and they want it for free.

I think more education should be mandatory and healthcare should be accessible to everyone. Smart healthy people make better citizens.

I don't have ant idea how to make this work, though.