Forget incels, meet ‘femcels’

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I hate it when people use "incel" or "femcel" as an insult

I just think it pushes people to become more and more angry about their situation

I think people should be more kinder to each other

I agree, bb. Kindness is a virtue.

I'm all in favour of this being out in the open though

I'm wondering if "Baby Reindeer" show is also a femcel issue as well as it being about a female stalker

I would like to know the extent to which being 'chronically online' contributes to the development of both incel and femcel mindsets. I suspect it would be significant.

On the subject of the terms being used as insults, I'd agree. However wasn't incel the word that incels themselves gave to their condition? I believe it was.

I have a lot of sympathy for people who struggle to achieve a romantic connection with another human. I've been there and I know what that feels like. What I don't have much sympathy for is the mindset that some people develop that they're powerless to do anything to improve the situation, and that the fault lies with members of whatever sex they're trying to attract for not finding them attractive.

To quote the very next paragraph after the one you quoted in your original post:



So. this is a work of fiction that is part of a long history in literature of writing antihero protagonists, except this is more unusual in that the antihero is a woman. As we know, in real life women seldom kill in comparison to men, and when they do it's usually self defense against their violent partners, so it's more shocking to read a story in which a woman is not killing in self defense but rather for enjoyment.

But then, the person who wrote this article decided to claim 'both sides' by equating this fictional character with a well known real life group: incels.

In real life, there just isn't a large groundswell of women who attack men the way incels attack women. Sure, lots of single heterosexual women can't always find a man they want to date, but they don't lash out online the way we've seen incels do. In real life, you just don't have to be afraid of a single woman the way you do have to be afraid of any man you don't know really well.

That is an interesting point! I think you might be onto something there, although who knows whether incel and femcel mindsets are the precursor to being chronically online or the result of being a femcel or incel?



I think the word has become dirty, and that might not have been the original intention. The world itself is mired in stigma nowadays.



Agreed, I have sympathy for people in this realm, but I don't agree with blaming other people for not finding one attractive.

As mentioned earlier in the thread, the article references the movie 'Sweetpea' which is in line with the topic of the femcel, but the article also discusses what a femcel is more generally.



I have come across several venomous femcels online, over the years, so I'm not sure I agree that there isn't a significant presence of these woman, who inevitably have a real life as well as an online one.

There are plenty of dangerous women out there to be associated with, but yes, statistically, men commit more crimes that there are to worry about in regards to interpersonal relations, i.e, violent or sexual crimes. I don't think many or any would argue with that.

Last year I was pretty blown away at the level of digging kidology did on -cels. Think Aydin Paladin-level digging. The top one of the three is her research on femceldome.

Thank you for the videos, techstep!

I shall watch these videos at some point. I am glad that they are archived in this thread for my later viewing.

Apparently a man's first instinct is to create public idea of himself as important and earn money, sex only comes afterwards.

Many men content to sit on male credit system even without actually doing anything for it, some males even lie or pretend to be like productive males. Then even snoopie-pimps dogs who outright exploit women.

Somehow if women point this out the usual male dominance will discredit her or even call femcell..... Despite women never coming close to doing to men the same. I won't report thread, but this is just tip of ice berg on things the true feminists can prove regarding testosterone.

Ladies and gentleman this man has done more for America than Snoop dog, (what)
Well technically red Indians still exist in South America and poor black man. Hmm, why did he give music away?
It's easy now to see how not to be revolutionists when world already changed, easy to disguise money grabbing.

But there are good people who don't profit off others misery. There are so many women who always defended children's rights, treated men with dignity of toilet training that I'd like for myself. Which femcels?

The linked-to article starts off with reviewing fictional literature, and then spins it up into a global phenomenon.

It is as if some random journalist was told to "Write some click-bait", and did.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ielv_IO ... xlcg%3D%3D

I suppose it's not nasty to watch blond die, she looks different in song with Cher. Not really my type of music but maybe some women can be witches.

I agree. I haven't read the article but the premise sounds like nonsense.

oh boy toxic femineity, that is for sure an awful branch of people....like I figure you mean the supposed career women who also will accept nothing less than a man who makes way more than they do. They are independent women who can afford to live alone yet as independent as they are they need the man to make more to take care of them.


and idk I think that's grosss, I am all for someone not wanting to date a lazy but I do hate the idea some people put forth that a career woman who can fend for herself should still seek out a richer man who can provide for them....and lits like if you're so indpendent you provide for yourself, you don't still need a man to take care of you. So your standard should not be 'independent I make my own money roar, but I expect you make more and you pay for everything even though I am independent and can handle myself....I just want you to fund my lifestyle while I s**t on you.

So idk I am aware of some toxic femininity and I don't like it, cause also the toxic women like that also talk down on people like me because I have disability, they try to be like you can't be a real women if you aren't career oriented, and that for sure is really offensive to me. So idk you may hear me b***h more about male on female sexism, but for sure there is toxic femininty to and it sucks to interact with.

LIke I hate to say it but some women are literally the worst sexists.

Famous 5 and autism metaphor in movies, she having meltdown.....cyclopes type character trying to calm her.

But I think often what he said was that she must wait for the man to finish his business, then daughter can have blond locks.
(Overheard)

But mostly women have contributed a lot to autism, from potty training to speech.

Yes, then she's peachy, speechy-peachy

Still not sure about Snoop dog who's free, lyrics to pump in cradle is just worry. Elon musk knows so much, has cheesy reason why Epstein list isn't published. I think either Epstein commited suicide or was murdered, to cover up who helped make him powerful. Maybe that girlfriend knows a bit more,
(Elon wants hrt banned, but sits there as if he knows about list, cares less about that crime)

Imagine publishing movie about hunting people as sport, maybe these things really happen, ex-veterans have licence to do whatever in vieetnaam too. Still see purple heart on American soil but somehow depicted as mothers who sold daughters, due to poverty. But realistic hotels in USA that cater Asian girls to train those who have interests in this type of sex. The. News and Trump like to show pretty boys, that way we see less of what is going on with predator movie and his evolution into new found evolution.