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How many times a day do you say to yourself: "I hate Bush"
More than 20 10%  10%  [ 9 ]
More than 20 10%  10%  [ 9 ]
10 to 20 5%  5%  [ 4 ]
10 to 20 5%  5%  [ 4 ]
5 to 10 5%  5%  [ 4 ]
5 to 10 5%  5%  [ 4 ]
2 to 5 7%  7%  [ 6 ]
2 to 5 7%  7%  [ 6 ]
Just once 2%  2%  [ 2 ]
Just once 2%  2%  [ 2 ]
None or very rarely 12%  12%  [ 10 ]
None or very rarely 12%  12%  [ 10 ]
None, I like Bush!! 9%  9%  [ 8 ]
None, I like Bush!! 9%  9%  [ 8 ]
Total votes : 86

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15 Aug 2005, 11:12 am

I am waiting for some more anti-Bush comments, guys. :D

How about: Rumsfailed (Rumsford, Bush's war chief)



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15 Aug 2005, 1:33 pm

I don't even think about bush at all during the day... It dosen't pay.

Last election cycle sucked. BOTH parties had morons running for president.

But with these oil men in power, raking in record profits, I'm sure bush wouldn't mind seeing us pay $5/gal for gas. Instead of spending $$$ to try and get oil out of alaska to use it up now instead of leaving it there for a later time, let's do something more proactive like update the CAFE standards and put limits on the size of vehicles that come out of detroit.

While my politcal views lean for the most part to the right of center, the neocons who are in power right now sometimes scare the crap out of me with their expansionist views.

And just think if a neocon like rush limbaugh ever got into the presidency. There goes any support people like us have!


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15 Aug 2005, 2:03 pm

20+ times a day. I hate the man. I wish Bush and his Fundie Friends would choke. He's on the verge of starting WW3. He seems to insist on shoving his sorry excuse for values down the world's throat.

Illegalizing abortion? I should hope the hell not. Shouldn't it be up to the woman to make that decision for herself? It is, afterall her body that is being parasitized.

Banning all forms birth control? Oh, for chrissakes... *pales* I don't even feel like getting into the disasters that would cause. Women don't always use the pill for contraception, you know...

The war in Iraq? A complete mistake. More of a joke, really. Its going to be another Vietnam. Just America sticking its nose where it doesn't belong in an endless quest to police the world to make it conform to our ideals. Much as I hate nuclear power and nuclear weapons, I really don't blame other countries for wanting to pursue a nuclear arsenal. They're probably afraid and I think they hold every right to hold such defense against the egomaniacal USA. Its not like they can trust us. Most of the world hates us, and I don't blame them.

There's so much more I could go on about, but my fingers would fall off.



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15 Aug 2005, 2:04 pm

Bush is a failure.

Search google for "failure" and you'll see what I mean.


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15 Aug 2005, 2:14 pm

tokaia wrote:

Illegalizing abortion? I should hope the hell not. Shouldn't it be up to the woman to make that decision for herself? It is, afterall her body that is being parasitized.


While im not a big fan of George Bush. I would like to see abortion made ilegal for the most part. The comparison of babies with parasites is quite offensive to me too. And since your asking no, it shouldnt be up to a woman to kill a human life just because she didnt have the sense to either use contreception, take the morning after pill or just keep her legs shut in the first place.



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15 Aug 2005, 3:03 pm

Well, its still a matter of civil rights.

In any case. How many times do I think "I hate G.W.B!"

hmmmmmmmm


wait, I can't think, my head is filled with "I hate G.W.B!"


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15 Aug 2005, 3:06 pm

alex wrote:
Bush is a failure.

Search google for "failure" and you'll see what I mean.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Wow! I think that made my day. Thanks, alex.



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15 Aug 2005, 3:15 pm

alex wrote:
Bush is a failure.

Search google for "failure" and you'll see what I mean.


Actually, its "miserable failure". :lol: Ah, the wonders of Googlebombing. :twisted:



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15 Aug 2005, 3:19 pm

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Well, its still a matter of civil rights.



Different people have different ideas what their civil rights are. That is why abortion used to be ilegal. It used to be a civil right for a 32 year old man to marry a 12 year old girl but that didnt make it right then or right now.



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15 Aug 2005, 3:39 pm

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Illegalizing abortion? I should hope the hell not. Shouldn't it be up to the woman to make that decision for herself? It is, afterall her body that is being parasitized.


While im not a big fan of George Bush. I would like to see abortion made ilegal for the most part. The comparison of babies with parasites is quite offensive to me too. And since your asking no, it shouldnt be up to a woman to kill a human life just because she didnt have the sense to either use contreception, take the morning after pill or just keep her legs shut in the first place.


Ah, but its not for you to decide, now is it? Accidents still happen. What about rape? If a woman were raped and forced to bear the child and she didn't want to, it would be a slap in the face of the victim. Contraception isn't 100%. Condoms completely cut off stimulation to some people. And I don't think people should have to abstain from sex with their partner or whatever, just because of the intense fear of becoming pregnant and not being able to abort if they so wish. There are already too many children that nobody wants up for adoption, especially among minorities. Poor parents who didn't want to put the child up for adoption would keep it and suck more welfare money out of the system unnecessarily, like so many already do.

Sex is an important part of any man/woman, man/man, woman/woman relationship. However, since only a man can get a woman pregnant, I'll stick to that. They may use contraception, for all you know. They should not have to worry about getting pregnant. They should not have to abstain at the cost of their relationship. If they wish not to put the baby up for adoption, they should be allowed to have an abortion if they so wish. I sure would. The world doesn't need another unwanted mouth to feed. And as far as putting up for adoption goes... Women are not brood mares for infertile couples! They may, as I have said before, not wish to put the child up for adoptions for reasons you wouldn't understand.

The bit you spewed about a woman "needing to keep her legs closed" is a mighty crappy thing to say. What if I were to say that "men should keep their dicks in their pants"? If you were a man (I don't know if you are or not), I think you'd feel the same way.

Not all women can get the morning after pill. Have you thought of that?

Getting one's "tubes tied" isn't always an option either. Most doctors will not perform this surgery on anyone under a certain age or unless they are married.

Lets say I were pregnant (that will never happen). Now lets say that given my stance on adoption, I wanted an abortion, because I don't ever want children. That child is in MY body, which I hold all rights to, and is part of my body. I deserve an abortion if I so choose.

I could debate this until my fingertips are worn to the bone. So I'll save time and post some links in the hopes that you'll get it.

http://www.now.org/

http://www.now.org/issues/abortion/index.html

I really suggest that you fully explore the site. It has some very compelling messages.

And besides... Its not like women who want abortions are forcing it on you! You have noting to lose.


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It used to be a civil right for a 32 year old man to marry a 12 year old girl but that didnt make it right then or right now.


Thats a matter of cultural opinion. In some countries, it is not frowned upon. Frankly, if both parties consent, I think its fine. Thats going to get me flack, but oh well. :roll:



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15 Aug 2005, 3:48 pm

I still dont think a woman has a right to kill a life. Many women i have spoken to are of the same mind and would feel too guilty to do this. The children might suck welfare money out of the state but i dont think anyone has the right to decide to kill another human being though would be more understanding if the child was suffering or the woman was raped. On the whole though nobody has that right whether that life is in a woman's body or comes out of a storks bag is besides the point. Abortion is still murder.



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15 Aug 2005, 8:17 pm

alex wrote:
Bush is a failure.

Search google for "failure" and you'll see what I mean.


Now that's funny!


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15 Aug 2005, 8:35 pm

I say it 5 times a day, especially since gas is now $2.55 a gallon.



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15 Aug 2005, 8:51 pm

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I don't say it often, just every now and then when he does something really stupid.



erm...

if that were the case, would there be time to say anything else in a day? :P

I've been politically pwned! :lol:


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16 Aug 2005, 5:40 am

eamonn wrote:
I still dont think a woman has a right to kill a life. Many women i have spoken to are of the same mind and would feel too guilty to do this. The children might suck welfare money out of the state but i dont think anyone has the right to decide to kill another human being though would be more understanding if the child was suffering or the woman was raped. On the whole though nobody has that right whether that life is in a woman's body or comes out of a storks bag is besides the point. Abortion is still murder.


I agree with you Eamonn, here. I don't think making abortion illegal would help, but it should be avoided at ALL costs. Contraception is fine, but abortion can be compared to murder, especially if the child is has been in the womb for a long time and is fully formed.



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16 Aug 2005, 8:10 am

abortion is a woman's right, and noone, especially MEN, should decide what a woman is to do with her OWN BODY.

and ya know what? if i ever get pregnant i'm getting the thing scooped out so fast, and you know why? for ITS sake. i never asked to be born into this f****d up world and i wouldn't make anyone else go through it either. abortion is merciful in my eyes.


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