Christianity Exposed in its Entirety - From A-Z
Chuchulainn wrote:
You atheists are all stupid. You will never, ever listen to reason.
I don't know about atheists in general, but reason is why a lot of people question these things.
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because it is beyond your spiritual ability. I know that Jesus is real. His fulfillments of the prophecies are undeniable, the absolute brilliance of the religion--how people retained it even though being crucified or burned alive--is unmistakably divine. I think being gay is OK, and such matters are up to debate.
well, if you firmly believe in something that makes you happy, that's good. If you believe bieng gay is ok, that's good too.
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But you will never, ever take away my Christianity.
No one will take away your freedom, and that's a good thing.
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Every time you try to destroy it, it multiplies in number; with every martyr comes ten converts, as in Rome, up until the point where Christianity was so prevalent that the Emperor was converted.
They adopted christianity merging elements from early christianity with their own pagan stuff. I believe they did a similar stuff with the greeks prior.
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The Cross has already defeated you all.
I will not waste my time or my energy on you. Why would I throw the best meats to the dogs?
You guys sound an awful lot like Stalin. Perhaps He had Asperger's.
I will not waste my time or my energy on you. Why would I throw the best meats to the dogs?
You guys sound an awful lot like Stalin. Perhaps He had Asperger's.
lol, that was funny
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Chuchulainn wrote:
You atheists are all stupid. You will never, ever listen to reason, because it is beyond your spiritual ability. I know that Jesus is real. His fulfillments of the prophecies are undeniable, the absolute brilliance of the religion--how people retained it even though being crucified or burned alive--is unmistakably divine. I think being gay is OK, and such matters are up to debate. But you will never, ever take away my Christianity. Every time you try to destroy it, it multiplies in number; with every martyr comes ten converts, as in Rome, up until the point where Christianity was so prevalent that the Emperor was converted.
"Reason" and "spiritual ability" are not compatible, are irrelevant, and mutually exclusive. Perhaps you're the one not listening to reason. It's all fine and good that you believe you "know" that Jesus is real, but some of us here are not convinced, and simply by saying you "know" he's real is no better than the bible saying we're going to hell, or some other fairy tale story. And what fulfillments? All these "prophecies" are nothing more than obvious predictions of outcomes that have already happened, or are grossly inaccurate and incorrect, and therefore, deniable, and there is nothing brilliant about religion which relies on something as blind as faith. Feel free to believe otherwise--it has nothing to do with me. If you are wondering about how people continue to believe these things after they believed they were tortured for it (they tortured others for it too and caused wars over it), please also remember that there is no medicine for ignorance, and it is not necessary that people's stupid persistence in believing something is divinity. Despite all the reasoning facilities I and many other people use, I am well aware that there are people who will still continue to believe in ridiculous things, and since there is no medicine for ignorance, I see no point in taking away your Christianity. So go ahead, believe what you want. Just leave us out of your plans, since we're not stopping you from doing anything that doesn't affect us. Please also remember; there was no such war between atheism and Christianity. Atheists have no reason at all to fight Christians, never had, and never will, so long as they will not try to deface science or offend atheists.
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The Cross has already defeated you all.
Religion cannot defeat reason, so long as faith does not blind me.
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I will not waste my time or my energy on you. Why would I throw the best meats to the dogs?
Then don't bother posting here. If you think we're not going to listen to you, or you don't want a debate, just don't post here then. Besides, if the "best" meat can only be enjoyed by the blindness of faith, I'd rather not have it, thank you very much.
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You guys sound an awful lot like Stalin. Perhaps He had Asperger's.
Even if he had Aspergers, that wouldn't mean all other Aspies are evil or facists. It's funny though, how some Christians accuse atheists of being influenced by Satan, yet no atheist would desire to start a war with Christians.
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"Reason" and "spiritual ability" are not compatible, are irrelevant, and mutually exclusive.
I think that would better be worded as follows:
"Reason" and "spiritual dogmatism" are not compatible, are irrelevant, and mutually exclusive.
I don't think it makes sense to by default link spirituality with blind faith. I think that when spirituality becomes a type of concretized blind faith that a G!d has been created which is deserving of murder, as it were. A concrete conceptualization of Deity or Spirit or however one wishes to call it is to me very much like the creation of a stone statue, one only good for destruction by iconoclasts.
Possibly, but could you define what you mean by "sprituality"? I have difficulty seeing how reason and spirituality might be related anyways.
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Arbitraris id veneficium quod te ludificat. Arbitror id formam quod intellego.
Ignorationi est non medicina.
Angelus,
I don't see them as related, just not in conflict. Those experiences that some people might concretize as a universal absolute, as dogma, I would consider to be spiritual experiences. I think that the issue isn't so much that a person has, finds meaning in, or even fosters those types of experiences, but that the person takes them as literal statements about the nature of reality.
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Chuchulainn wrote:
But you will never, ever take away my Christianity. Every time you try to destroy it, it multiplies in number; with every martyr comes ten converts, as in Rome, up until the point where Christianity was so prevalent that the Emperor was converted.
Argumentum ad populum. A large number of believers does not automatically make something true. And adding Emperor Constantine to the mix compounds this error with argumentum ad verecundiam, or appeal to authority.
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You guys sound an awful lot like Stalin. Perhaps He had Asperger's.
I consider this to be a highly inappropriate remark for a forum such as WP.
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"Unfortunately for peaceful believers, the fanatics twist something sacred into an ugly parody of itself.
interesting, for that is exactly what you do ;-(
yet, while there is breath(spirit) there is hope.
for Miracles do happen!
hope is there would be those who experience The Miracle that is
receiving "a love of The Truth".......
peace, in spite of the dis-ease(no-peace) that is of this wicked world, for
"the WHOLE wordl is under the control of the evil one" indeed and Truth....... ElderChild