True Beliefs Have No Survival Value?

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i see.

My problem with this is that you can't just make up premises that lack logic, and then make inferences based on that. Why is he allowed to make the assumption "less than half?" Where is the logic behind that conclusion?

Are we allowed to just make up assumptions out of thin air and then argue based on those assumptions? If so, I'd like to suggest that I'm the smartest person who ever existed, therefore, you should all bow to me! If we are accepting premises willy-nilly, then you must obey!

Not only does the theory of evolution present a believable structure into which all of the historical discoveries of ancient fossils fit but the mechanics of evolution have proven useful instruments for modifying current structures and have indicated dangers and remedies for protecting ourselves from modern biological antagonists which are evolving before our eyes. To embrace anti-evolutionist theories is not only silly, it is exceedingly dangerous.

I'm beginning to think that evolution/eugenics was something that was pushed through the science field for global elites to try and justify their dominance, honestly.
And I also think what spdjeane is saying is dead on. If people are taught they are apes, they'll act like apes. Rather the indoctrination is scientific, political, cultural, or religious it bears an effect on peoples' behavior. These things develope buildings within peoples' minds, walls, so to speak. But without all those walls, people would be more open minded and diverse with their options hince providing them more options for survival. Most people really don't want to be that free though, it scares them, they feel it is too much responsibility.
People are systematically categorized, by race, gender, sexual orientation, religion, nation, disability, then theyr given culture. Culture tells people how to act like whatever categor(y)(ies) they fall into. It ultimately creates division.
From the time children are born, they are taught how to conform, through church, through school, fashion trends, entertainment, and as they grow into adulthood many get side tracked by the diversions thrown out on television, rather than focusing on important and more sensitive issues like what's really going on in the world, theyr pre-occupied with the latest Brittney Spears trial or something similar.
But they've been slaves all along, not just to indoctrination but to material wealth, money..... All monetary systems throughout time have been doomed to collapse. For ever dollar the government prints, it owes back that dollar with interest to the bank, the bank of england actually for us Americans seeing as we haven't ever really won independence from the brittish banks (little known fact there). But ultimately it all goes back to the World Bank as far as the banking s**t goes....... Until we can become independent from money we will not be truely free..... But if we do not wake up soon the world will know total slavery at the hands of the trilateral commission, the builderburgers, CFR, and all their organizations and businesses.......

I think if people could grow up free of belief, free of ideologies, free of walls, free from indoctrination, free from social ladders, perhaps they would make better decisions. The world around us is a multi-faced deception, and the manipulators behind it know how to brainwash very well, they've had hundreds of years of experience at it...... Break on through to the other side.

Evolution wasn't pushed through, Eugenics may be used to maintain dominance, however.

HEY

Please note that this is not my argument. It is an argument I read yesterday that I do NOT agree with. Some of these responses address me as if I were the author of this argument which I am not.

Alvin Plantinga is the author if the argument, which I paraphrased, and may have paraphrased poorly. However, I think the general idea is still intact.

Also, it seems that the term logical/illogical is being used ambiguously. I would like to introduce some terms that will clarify my opinion about Planitinga's argument.

http://www.wisegeek.com/in-logic-what-a ... uments.htm

I STRONGLY advise reading Nietzsche if you want to learn about where our present-day morals and values came from and what is the basis for them. The values that govern our behaviour in the present time are DRASTICALLY different than the values of old times. This may sound strange, and you may automatically jump to the conclusion that we have evolved for the better, but how much thought and research have you done if that is your opinion? Have you ever questioned where our morals came from? Note: the answer is not God!

Who, and when was it decided what is good and what is bad or evil? The basis for our definitions of good and bad, or "true values" is probably not what you think it is There is in fact answers to these questions. It's rather interesting if you are intellectually capable of comprehending the asnwers and open-minded enough to consider alternatives to modern perceptions.

I recommend reading this rather than some religious finatic's opinion on the effects of evolution on our "true beliefs."

Truth is actually based on subjective perceptions rather than objective perceptions. There are spiritual truths, but instead of thinking we are being rational and logical when we are feeling depressed, we need to realize that something in our thinking and world view is fundamentally wrong. The traditional way of religious conversions happened when people were under emotional torment and could not turn to their own god/gods for help. The natural results of this is where the revelations come from, when you finally see the conversions from one religion or spirituality to another.