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Do you find this viable, that Jesus Christ was autistic?
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29 Nov 2007, 12:48 pm

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So you're agreeing to both then, i take it.

I think i'm inadvertently expressing my belief that it is impossible to say. It's too long ago and the materials for diagnosis are missing.
I agree that he is described, possibly by aspie chroniclers, as a little professor in childhood. But also as very gifted in relation to people, capable of direct and immediate understanding of people's problems, and of keeping a group of people united for almost three years, etc. The remaining records are susceptible to many interpretations.
I had enjoyed imagining the Narcissistic personality disorder one a couple of years ago. When i was seeing christianity as a cult like scientology which had succeeded.
On the other hand there's nothing to say he couldn't have been both, just as a certain genetic group of AS suffer from manic-depression, and my own experience of ASD has included a period of something remarkably like narcissism which collapsed under too much pressure over three years of increasingly grandiose manic-depression in which i wondered at one point whether i might not be the next great leader come to liberate children with child rights etc. :roll: :lol:

He might have been mentally ill, a megalomaniac, or aspie or many things, though probably not a regular NT in normal health ! !

I don't think it's too important what he was except in so far as this condition or its associated conviction led him to act out an archetypal role of the human psyche. He acted out, for whatever reason, accident or design, a profound drama of the human mind, to which people became consequently very attached,( like, in a miniature version, Princess Diana played.)
Fun to argue about tho ! ! :D

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29 Nov 2007, 1:37 pm

This guy cannot be serious. It's a parody at best. Autism is really the last thing I would have ever attributed to Him.



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29 Nov 2007, 2:30 pm

I've read in a few gnostic gospels, especially one from Jesus' best friend Judas, that Jesus was strickened to acting like a child his whole life. I mean just check out the gnostic gospels and see what was said before the "catholics" and all the other "denominations" started to edit them for their own greasy purposes.



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29 Nov 2007, 2:40 pm

Jesus, historically speaking, did exist. theoretically, yes, he was probebly autistic, how he was able to maintain a sin free lifestyle, he could have had a pituitary adenoma, which causes impotency issues in males. HE was probebly also a savant, with healing ability. Or an alien human hybrid, like me!



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29 Nov 2007, 2:42 pm

Your an alien-human hybrid too, eh? I never thought i would meet one like me on here, hehe.



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29 Nov 2007, 2:56 pm

I wouldn't say Jesus had pituitary adenoma, he apparently had tons of kids with Mary Magdalen. And Judas says in his gospels about how often Jesus would go into the desert alone naked to beat-off. He (Jesus) had some sort of affinity for the seed of man. I don't know why though. I think he just really was grossly-encumbered with the gift of life.



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29 Nov 2007, 2:58 pm

Averick wrote:
I've read in a few gnostic gospels, especially one from Jesus' best friend Judas, that Jesus was strickened to acting like a child his whole life. I mean just check out the gnostic gospels and see what was said before the "catholics" and all the other "denominations" started to edit them for their own greasy purposes.


Even if the Catholics did edit them out, there are still about 5400 copies (last I checked) of various New Testament books before the Catholic church was even founded, so double-checking wouldn't be all that hard.

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Jesus, historically speaking, did exist. theoretically, yes, he was probebly autistic, how he was able to maintain a sin free lifestyle, he could have had a pituitary adenoma, which causes impotency issues in males. HE was probebly also a savant, with healing ability. Or an alien human hybrid, like me!


But He claimed to be God Himself. If he was intentionally lying, then that's not really living a sin-free lifestyle, especially considering He kept up the act for an estimated three years, and thousands would come to see Him. If anything, that's a most cruel hoax if it wasn't true.



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29 Nov 2007, 3:05 pm

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Jesus, historically speaking, did exist. theoretically, yes, he was probebly autistic, how he was able to maintain a sin free lifestyle, he could have had a pituitary adenoma, which causes impotency issues in males. HE was probebly also a savant, with healing ability. Or an alien human hybrid, like me!


That "sin-free lifestyle" is an unsubstantiated rumor started by people with a political agenda. :wink:

However, there is substantial evidence that aliens have been intervening in human evolution. :wink:


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29 Nov 2007, 3:08 pm

Oh, i totally concur. But my facts are unsubstantiated. I think they are the real gods of our world.



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29 Nov 2007, 3:10 pm

And Jesus did sin. He broke many laws of his time, which is a sin.



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29 Nov 2007, 4:58 pm

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And Jesus did sin. He broke many laws of his time, which is a sin.


No it is not, not those kinds of "laws". :)

Besides, I think Jesus is the only one in the history of man that has never sinned.



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29 Nov 2007, 5:07 pm

It's been said by some that Jesus was an indigo child.


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29 Nov 2007, 5:25 pm

So they may say that Jesus never sinned. But my question is what defines the difference between law and sin? This is a trick question; because laws and sins change on a daily basis when you look at the scope of things that religion and politics offered mankind aeons ago and until today. For example: women's sufferage, divorce, interracial sex, homosexuality, abortion, freedom of speech...

I think from a bird's-eye-view Jesus was just trying to teach tolerance. Remember, the Golden Rule. This is why I have the problem with organized religion today. It doesn't teach you about plain compassion, not without hidden agendas of bias.



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29 Nov 2007, 5:26 pm

And what is an indigo child? Is that a hippy-child?



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29 Nov 2007, 6:13 pm

Averick wrote:
So they may say that Jesus never sinned. But my question is what defines the difference between law and sin? This is a trick question; because laws and sins change on a daily basis when you look at the scope of things that religion and politics offered mankind aeons ago and until today. For example: women's sufferage, divorce, interracial sex, homosexuality, abortion, freedom of speech...

I think from a bird's-eye-view Jesus was just trying to teach tolerance. Remember, the Golden Rule. This is why I have the problem with organized religion today. It doesn't teach you about plain compassion, not without hidden agendas of bias.


1. As far as I understand the greek word for sin mean to miss the goal. Like if you're playing soccer and try to make a goal and shoot the ball so it ends up where you don't wont it to end up.

2. I think God never changes what his goal for us is. That is to love him and our neightbor us ourselves. To act responsible and loving toward each other. I think the ten commandments are a more concrete/elaborate way for him to explain to us how he wants us to do that, in practice. We don't really seem to be so good at understanding what that means ourselves. We need help.

3. I think there is a certain relativism when it comes to rules. For example, in a situation when there are two or several commandments that are opposing each other you have to make a loveing and responsible decision on which one is the most important. Just like when Jesus healed people on the sabbath.

4. Just because there is a certain change in the way the church thinks about certain things over time doesn't nessesarily mean that there is a change in how God thinks.

5. If you look at the gospel it seems that christians are beeing encouraged to be humble rather then to "claim there right". Humility seems to be a virtue that God thinks is good for us to practice. That meant that Paul is encourageing slaves and women to sort of stay inte their place. But it does'nt mean that God says that slavery in itself is good.

6. Tolerance is a good thing. :)

7. Rules without compassion can be a very harsh thing. I think that there is a lot of problems in the churches in the western world today. One of them is that we don't have enough compassion. It doesn't mean that Jesus does not have compassion.



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29 Nov 2007, 9:06 pm

I agree with what you say, but, the ten commandments aren't really followed by most of their followers and manipulated to how they see fit. But you would have to be divine just to live your life by these rules anyway, which is hogwash, because we are animals with higher-conscience. But that isn't a lowly description of man; I believe that we are guardians of a healthy planet which in turn we were meant to sustain.