Asperger's and political activism...........

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What do you think of political activism?
I am regularly involved 14%  14%  [ 10 ]
I am regularly involved 14%  14%  [ 10 ]
I do something occasionally 16%  16%  [ 12 ]
I do something occasionally 16%  16%  [ 12 ]
I want to, but am too afraid 3%  3%  [ 2 ]
I want to, but am too afraid 3%  3%  [ 2 ]
Not sure 3%  3%  [ 2 ]
Not sure 3%  3%  [ 2 ]
Not interested 12%  12%  [ 9 ]
Not interested 12%  12%  [ 9 ]
Activists are a public nuisance!! ! 3%  3%  [ 2 ]
Activists are a public nuisance!! ! 3%  3%  [ 2 ]
Total votes : 74

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31 Aug 2005, 11:55 pm

ljbouchard wrote:
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Send a letter to your federal or state representative.

Nope - I wouldn't bother
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Called or talked to your mayor or council member

Nope - I wouldn't know where to start (both metaphorically and physically)
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Write a letter to the editor of your local newspaper

Nope - pfft
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Assist a politician (at any level) to win their election bid

Nope - Who'd want to, without getting paid?
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Go to a public meeting and speak up about an issue that affects you (The Hyde Park NY School District was glad to be rid of me because of this).

Nope - I hate public speaking...
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Run for an elected position yourself

Nope
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Assists others (Especially other adults on the spectrum) in registering to vote and in voting

Nope
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Assist a organization politcal/legislative arm in setting policy and convincing lawmakers

Nope...

Might I add that 'activism' in the stereotypical sense, is a form a fanaticism. :)


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Maybe the 2000 elections results would have been different if every aspie able to vote was registered and voted?


Also allow me to state this loud and clear... Not everyone lives in America.

GA

(PS: I know my comments seemed harsh, no offense intended, except where offense taken, then it's your own damned fault :P :wink: )



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01 Sep 2005, 1:09 am

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It is shocking and kinda of sad to see that when people think of political activism, they think of it as dealing with national politics and protesting. It could be further from the truth.

Personally, I find the liberal political activists inefficciency humorous.

ljbouchard wrote:
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Send a letter to your federal or state representative.

Yep, just did that the other week. It was mass mailed and was part of a campaign to defeat new gun control laws. It worked.

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Maybe the 2000 elections results would have been different if every aspie able to vote was registered and voted?

I strongly doubt it. ASD people make up a very small percentage of the population and wouldn't have any impact on most States. Maybe chalk it up to a ToM issue, but you seem to be assuming that most or all people on the spectrum in the US are Democrats. Furthermore, there Is a disproportionate number of ASD people in the Bay area and the New England area, and both those places are traditionally taken for granted by the Democrats already.



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01 Sep 2005, 1:22 am

Politics, (constitutional) law, history, military history, and military affairs are my favorite topics to ponder. I am fairly skilled at tearing other arguments down and forcing others to build them from scratch which allows me to poke holes in the arguments at each level and to agree upon common sets of facts. Of course, some times in the course of these long sessions I am proven wrong and I gladly accept whatever the truth may be.

If it was not necessary for lawyers to speak, then I would have become one. Instead I am in computers - where there are no jobs in the San Francisco bay area for soon to be grads. Well, I’m sure there is something, but with zero job security, low wages, and torturous hours it is no small delight


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01 Sep 2005, 2:01 am

GA and Sean,

OK, to unamericanize this, in Irag, the Kurds decided to take part in national elections even though they knew they were in the minority. The Sunnis did not. When the results came in, the party that was thought of to assume the majority did not have enough seats in parliment. Because the kurds went out to vote, their party was asked to become part of the coalition government and as such they are able to help shape the policy of the Iraqi government whereas the Sunnis have been left out. Voting does make a difference, even if you are a small minority. I was simply giving an example.

Finally regarding the volunteer work for a politician that you like, you do get paid back. Although all politiicans are required to listen to all of their constituents, most polititicans listen the most to those who assisted them in getting to where they are. Again, a small act can pay off big by allowing you to help shape policy. If you support a political party, you can also join a disability caucus which is where the party forms its policy on disability awareness and laws.

What my point was it that the small things are political activism too. If you do not want to take part, that is your business but then do not get mad when the policy the politicans form do not include your interest.


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01 Sep 2005, 2:44 am

Technically, couldn't John Wilkes Booth, Lee Harvey Oswald, and James Earl Ray all be considered political activists as well?



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01 Sep 2005, 4:21 am

True Sean although I would have to say, those would be extreme cases and I would hope that most people would not resort to that type of political activism.


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01 Sep 2005, 12:48 pm

ljbouchard wrote:
Maybe the 2000 elections results would have been different if every aspie able to vote was registered and voted?

I strongly doubt it. ASD people make up a very small percentage of the population and wouldn't have any impact on most States. Maybe chalk it up to a ToM issue, but you seem to be assuming that most or all people on the spectrum in the US are Democrats. Furthermore, there Is a disproportionate number of ASD people in the Bay area and the New England area, and both those places are traditionally taken for granted by the Democrats already.[/quote]

That is why Republican nominees for office do not even bother campaigning in California too much. ;) The Bay Area is a lost cause for any sort of conservatism, anyways.


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01 Sep 2005, 1:05 pm

why has the page format gone all skinny in this thread?



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01 Sep 2005, 2:31 pm

I think I fixed that.



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01 Sep 2005, 4:06 pm

vetivert wrote:
why has the page format gone all skinny in this thread?


Its all my fault Vivi :wink: , I started the thread. I'm cutting all those Conservatives down to size................ 8)

Anyway guys. Thanks for your comments on this topic. I shall bear it all in mind next time I plan on launching a revolution.



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01 Sep 2005, 4:47 pm

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Anyway guys. Thanks for your comments on this topic. I shall bear it all in mind next time I plan on launching a revolution.

Reality check: You live in England. Where are you going to get the guns for that?



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01 Sep 2005, 5:04 pm

Sean wrote:
RobertN wrote:
Anyway guys. Thanks for your comments on this topic. I shall bear it all in mind next time I plan on launching a revolution.

Reality check: You live in England. Where are you going to get the guns for that?


You don't need guns in my revolution. All you need is a brain.



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01 Sep 2005, 5:26 pm

Sean wrote:
RobertN wrote:
Anyway guys. Thanks for your comments on this topic. I shall bear it all in mind next time I plan on launching a revolution.

Reality check: You live in England. Where are you going to get the guns for that?


You can get guns in Britain if you really want them. Legally if you have good reason too and illegally if you know how. Not that i would condone such behaviour.



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01 Sep 2005, 6:49 pm

Armchair Radicalism can be quite diverting but the only thing that gets in the way of progressive politics is Human Nature.

It seems odd that whatever you 'sell' a political package as, it all boils down to a handful of manipulative, egotistical, self-servign opportunists gaining the ascendancy.

I despair of other people and I really do not think any political system is particularly geared up to solving the problems some people claim to be concerned about.



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02 Sep 2005, 2:17 am

RobertN wrote:
Sean wrote:
RobertN wrote:
Anyway guys. Thanks for your comments on this topic. I shall bear it all in mind next time I plan on launching a revolution.

Reality check: You live in England. Where are you going to get the guns for that?


You don't need guns in my revolution. All you need is a brain.

Brains don't do revolutionaries any good if they become splattered all over the ground.



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02 Sep 2005, 2:25 am

true. but if one HAS a brain, the point is to use it, so as not to get to that stage, isn't it? ;) :D