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23 Jan 2008, 10:18 pm

A superb list for those who actually do enjoy using their minds to THINK. Thanks for the terrific link!


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23 Jan 2008, 10:33 pm

Did they really try to hold up Gandhi and Krishnamurti as examples of atheism? And anyone who quotes Freud automatically destroys their credibility in my view.


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23 Jan 2008, 11:53 pm

Heh, don't quote "God Is Dead", most the theists on this board have NO IDEA what you are talking about.

Beautiful Rendition of The Parable of the Madman

Ravi has enough logic holes in his speeches to rival swiss cheese, but he certainly has a nice voice. He is a Christian, and tries his best to make straw man arguments look credible. :roll:



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27 Jan 2008, 12:07 pm

"I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do because I notice it always coincides with their own desires." - Susan B. Anthony



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27 Jan 2008, 1:08 pm

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27. What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof.


This I think is actually from Euclid.


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27 Jan 2008, 1:58 pm

This pretty much sums up the whole “science vs. religion” debate in my eyes.

“When a question doesn’t have an answer it ceases to exist in the religious mind, and those who seek real answers are then fearfully opposed.”

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27 Jan 2008, 10:21 pm

Very interesting some I have known about , and others I did not.


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28 Jan 2008, 12:04 pm

twoshots wrote:
Sedaka wrote:
Stephen Hawking

23. Black holes would seem to suggest that God not only plays dice, but also sometimes throws them where they cannot be seen.
Stephen Hawking, NATURE, 1975




i liked that one, lol


I've always liked that quote, but while it seems somewhat sacrilegious , I'm not sure how it's really atheist. It just seems more of a play on Einstein's objections to quantum theory.

"God does not play dice."
"Einstein! Stop telling God what to do." - Bohr
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Einstein's objections to quantum theory were based on theistic thought. As your own quote suggests, the idea of a god that did not run the universe according to some kind or order or pattern didn't work for him. Hawking's comments were taking the mickey out of the idea and in a round-a-bout way, belief in a god. I suppose it depends on how you look at it.


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28 Jan 2008, 3:17 pm

The_Q wrote:
twoshots wrote:
Sedaka wrote:
Stephen Hawking

23. Black holes would seem to suggest that God not only plays dice, but also sometimes throws them where they cannot be seen.
Stephen Hawking, NATURE, 1975




i liked that one, lol


I've always liked that quote, but while it seems somewhat sacrilegious , I'm not sure how it's really atheist. It just seems more of a play on Einstein's objections to quantum theory.

"God does not play dice."
"Einstein! Stop telling God what to do." - Bohr
:lol:


Einstein's objections to quantum theory were based on theistic thought. As your own quote suggests, the idea of a god that did not run the universe according to some kind or order or pattern didn't work for him. Hawking's comments were taking the mickey out of the idea and in a round-a-bout way, belief in a god. I suppose it depends on how you look at it.


Einstein was a pantheist (He claimed he believed in "Spinoza's God") IIRC. Spinoza was a strict determinist and did not believe in free will.

I actually agree with Einstein with my reservations about the probabilistic nature of Quantum Mechanics, it is why I support the "Many Worlds" interpretation of QM, it preserves determinism.


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28 Jan 2008, 4:32 pm

I pretty much despise George Carlin and Bill Hicks, but the list was pretty awesome.



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28 Jan 2008, 6:03 pm

Mc_Jeff wrote:
I pretty much despise George Carlin and Bill Hicks, but the list was pretty awesome.


Why do you not like Carlin? I've actually seen him perform live, he's a riot.


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30 Jan 2008, 10:00 pm

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40. Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day; teach a man to fish and he will eat for a lifetime; give a man religion and he will die praying for a fish.

I always thought that was:
"... teach a man to fish and he will sit in a boat all day drinking beer"


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