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19 Feb 2008, 11:10 pm

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Sigh. Please, please look up Sen. Clinton's voting record (or even her campaign platform, conveniently found on her website) before making uninformed statements about her politics. I think, if you look at her actual positions rather than right-wing propaganda about her, most reasonable people will see that she's a moderate or moderate liberal.


she was running for president from the day she made her first vote in the senate, her votes mean nothing because they where based on how they would look when she ran for president.

clinton gate's all prove the true morals of the clintons, they have none and only care about themselves.



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19 Feb 2008, 11:51 pm

Okay, so now you've changed your position to her being a closeted Marxist or something? And this assessment is based on the Hillary Clinton biography as told by Rush Limbaugh, I assume.



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19 Feb 2008, 11:54 pm

Hillary is definitely giving me the creeps...someone wrote an article not long ago about her reaction if she were to loose...hmmm...I'm thinking something along the lines of "Fatal Attraction"...Actually, so did that reporter...She seems to focus so much on her rival, instead of on herself...

There was talk today about her running "for herself"...like, she couldn't really care less about anyone, she just wants to run and win because this has been her goal all along...vs. Obama who although of course wants to win, seems to be running because he wants to work an make a difference...

I think she's gonna go postal...Ah, the crying incident...haha...I'm wondering if she cried for such a stupid question on TV...what will she do when something else doesn't go her way...or someone says something bad about her...hmmm...I think she's gonna go postal soon...

PS - Everyone who supports her says she is a strong woman, blah, blah...well, honestly, I have yet to meet a strong woman who has stayed with a man who's cheated on them...with that said, is she REALLY a strong woman? And if so, then it seems to me that she stayed for "convenience"...she had it planned out since then, there was talk back then...about her wanting to run for President one day...I have a feeling that this "strong" woman is going to dump her hubby if she doesn't get elected and she'll be blaming him in the divorce for her loss...



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20 Feb 2008, 1:46 am

Sounds like *someone* has Clinton Derangement Syndrome.


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20 Feb 2008, 1:51 am

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Sounds like *someone* has Clinton Derangement Syndrome.


lol, many people here have Bush Derangement Syndrome as well.



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20 Feb 2008, 7:43 am

srriv345 wrote:
Okay, so now you've changed your position to her being a closeted Marxist or something? And this assessment is based on the Hillary Clinton biography as told by Rush Limbaugh, I assume.


last time I saw Rush the clintoons where still in the white house :lol: It's beyond your imagination people exsist who have a negitive veiw of the clintoons that don't lap up talk radio and Fox news isn't it ?

anyone capable of taking an objective veiw of the clintoon years can planly see the real story about their morals, they are scum, both of them.

http://www.usdoj.gov/pardon/clintonpardon_grants.htm



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20 Feb 2008, 8:52 am

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Everyone remembers “Hillarycare,” the Clinton Administration Socialized medicine scheme that failed to pass Congress which she spearheaded.


Yes, I remember that. We could have had universal health care a decade ago, but the insurance companies and other special interests spent a lot of money to prevent that from happening. Since then, prices for insurance have gone up, quality and satisfaction have gone down, and a smaller percent of people in the US are covered.



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20 Feb 2008, 2:09 pm

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fabshelly wrote:
Sounds like *someone* has Clinton Derangement Syndrome.


lol, many people here have Bush Derangement Syndrome as well.


"Reality has a well-known Liberal bias." ~ Press Club Keynote Speaker


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20 Feb 2008, 6:05 pm

fabshelly wrote:
oscuria wrote:
fabshelly wrote:
Sounds like *someone* has Clinton Derangement Syndrome.


lol, many people here have Bush Derangement Syndrome as well.


"Reality has a well-known Liberal bias." ~ Press Club Keynote Speaker


ret*d, reality does not take sides in infantile human affairs.



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20 Feb 2008, 7:22 pm

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ret*d, reality does not take sides in infantile human affairs.


So your very progressive when it comes to blacks, hispanics and Jews, but not when it comes to people with mental disabilities??

BTW - look up conservative pundit Steven Colbert ... he is the one who coined the phrase that reality has a liberal bias. Its kinda like Orwells statement that all are equal, but some are more equal.



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21 Feb 2008, 1:32 pm

Or you could look up Liberal comedian Stephen Colbert, who plays Conservative Pundit Stephen Colbert on The Colbert Report on Comedy Central.

The idiots at the NPC thought he really *was* a conservative pundit and invited him to be the keynote speaker.

It went really, really well:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 7758574879

Look at the happy reception Laura Bush gave him afterward!


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21 Feb 2008, 2:14 pm

LOL ... I saw the presidential toast online, and got the book for Christmas. I am America, and so can you!!



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21 Feb 2008, 5:53 pm

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snake321 wrote:
ret*d, reality does not take sides in infantile human affairs.


So your very progressive when it comes to blacks, hispanics and Jews, but not when it comes to people with mental disabilities??

BTW - look up conservative pundit Steven Colbert ... he is the one who coined the phrase that reality has a liberal bias. Its kinda like Orwells statement that all are equal, but some are more equal.


Dude your just being overly PC, I'm an aspie, I've been called a ret*d by ableist scum enough that I should be able to use the term without PC freaks like yourself making such accusations against me. I do not care what Colbert said, it's just right-wing victimology propaganda (even if it was said in joking humor). Reality does not take sides, and there is only one reality, contrary to popular belief. Or atleast only one reality we can be sure of (which would be the only one that would effect us). I don't buy this modernist/post modernist/ moral relativity/ existentialism/deconstructionism sci-fi brainwash crap "oh how do I know my hand in front of my face isn't an illusion" crap.



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21 Feb 2008, 6:02 pm

Besides, I think I'm probably more over than you are anyways with minorities for the fact that unlike PC freaks, I have the courage and the balls to speak my mind, and not cower away in a corner for fear of offending them. I just treat them the same way I'd treat anyone else. And many of them respect that. In my neighborhood I'm near-about the only white person my age out there, most are black. And black people generally have a liking to "keeping it real" (not saying every individual one of them actually succeeds at it though).
How can we truely learn from one another when we're too afraid to ask questions? When we're just following left-wing seperatist propaganda to avoid offending someone? That's not learning, that's not bridging any gaps, if anything it's just keeping people more divided, by promoting fear and guilt among whites, and racialism among ethnics. That's all this PC crap is.



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21 Feb 2008, 7:08 pm

Since snake has used the "b" word in another thread, I have no regard for his opinion about any woman. Probably his mommy didn't love him enough, and now he's a sad, lonely woman-hater.



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21 Feb 2008, 8:59 pm

Just because I use the "b word" does not mean I'm talking about a woman, or making a sexist statement. Same applies for using words like ret*d or fag, it doesn't mean I'm talking bad about disabled people or gays. It's what context one uses it in (ie are you using the words to degrade someone because of their gender or mental condition, or are you just using it as a general figure of speech that one picks up through society). Words like that have basically just became figures of speech. I call some straight people fags or some mentally abled people ret*d, I'm not knocking a group of people, it's no different than if I called them an idiot or a sissy.
Your just being an immature, overly-emotional, PC b***h (whoa, I said it again). Did it ever occur to you that if I call a woman a b***h, she's probably acting like one? A b***h is a woman **with an attitude problem**. Not just a woman you see, a woman **with an attitude problem**. I'll call some guys b*****s, if they act like one... But a male with an attitude problem is actually called a **bastard**. One more point, being as I'm an aspie, the word "ret*d" by PC standards should be offensive to me right? I don't give a damn, it's how the word is being used. We pick up all sorts of words like this as figures of speech. It's no different than calling someone a dumbass.

For what it's worth, your following this PC s**t, you've probably got a strong biased against males. So for that matter, your opinion on men don't hold any water with me either.



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