'Fascism, Anyone?' article points out some scary signs!! !

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as long as there are enough people profiting by the administration, there wont be a rise up against an oppressive government-> see nazi germany
such countrys are only fast stoppable with a war.
without a war it takes some decades or more to get rid of that government.

Bush and the current administration is the tip of the ice-berg.

While we are all labeling this group with all the problems, we are not seeing the
"man behind the curtain."

Fascism will go marching on no matter who we throw out.
Bush is a puppet, a figurehead for the elite.

Agreed. There is a lot of flip-flopping from one oppressive regime to another. I was thinking on a somewhat grander scale though- more along the lines of the whole of modern society being overturned, and our entire way of life changing. We all know that sooner or later someone is going to hit those nukes, whether its a superpower or a terrorist organisation.

Don't be so sure. He is on a very slippery slope.

Mithrandir is right though. Bush is merely the public face of a much larger problem. We must think of new ways to defeat the elite.

I say we tax the corporate elite into the ground, and when they refuse to pay, we chuck 'em in jail. We can nationalise their companies by force if necessary!! !

RobertN

It is the society of this world that causes these problems. By allowing such things to happen.

Sanityisoverrated,
after reading this, you have become, like, my personal hero.
I agree with pretty much everything you've said.
But about rising up, there's a possibility that we'll end up in a world where we're not given the amount of space we need to rise up. Like in 1984. The world is moving closer and closer towards that kind of government. Our schools are sure signs of this, what with strict dress codes, a ban on gum (which really i sn't all that harmful if you just swallow it or throw it in the trash!), and an emphasis on -perfect- conduct, -school pride-, and -loyalty-.
Thus setting today's youths up for a similarly run political administration.

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You know, having read Sean's "rant", as it were, I notice one thing. On the key alligations, he doesn't deny ANY of it, just gives reasons BEHIND why that exists.....

The corporate elite are scary, but I find the religious right to be even more frightening. The religious right are the ones that are giving the corporate elite so much power.

its a simple giving and taking deal, not more and not less

How does that work? Not all industries supprt the same causes, and not all religous interests are compatible with the buisness interests.

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Off-topic, but I just wanted to let you know that you opened up a quote tag that you didn't close, Sean. I'll delete this when it's fixed.

Edit: Okay... I don't quite see the thing that can delete my post, but I would delete this post if I could.

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I have two words
Yale, Skulls.

I will never again support a candidate from either.

http://www.parascope.com/articles/0997/skullbones.htm[/quote]

Yes, it's pretty scary watching these signs... people constantly giving up their freedoms out of fear. Our whole society is fear based- people don't follow laws because they agree with them, they follow laws because they fear punishment if they don't. Things are definitely heading towards 1984 (Although I must admit I never finished reading that book... I will someday though!).
Have you seen the Terry Gilliam film 'Brazil'? That also paints a very similar picture.

However I have faith in the human spirit, no matter what happens we will find a way. And even if we don't... chaos will. Chaos Theory is rather comforting in such circumstances.

People have been pointing out the erosion of human rights in the US for quite a while, the press turns a blind eye. Presumably if it gets into the National Rnquirer or similar it will be taken seriously. Much of the recent anti-terror law has dismantled sections of the Constitution. In the UK we are returning to the "good old days" when torture was not only allowed in court, but we were pioneers of SD torture. Installation of islamicist governments doesn't help either.
http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=5136

I agree wtih whoever mentioned it going on in schools. My school is less and less individualisitc every year. More carbon copies of the same backwards morals and beliefs than I'd like to see.

"Homosexuality is evil, but promiscuity and rampant machoism while in the guise of Chrisitanity is fine." They won't say it, but it's the common belief I see way too often in people. People believe everything they're told, and soon they'll believe they have rights when they no longer have any.

Machoism and promiscuity aren't in and of themselves bad. People have the freedom to show off or get involved in polygamous relationships so long as they don't actually hurt or insult anyone


Here's an overview of my new school (which you can tell I hate):
1.Some random stuff you choose to wear one morning will distract everyone from the curriculum (OMG Someone's wearing a tank top! We can't concentrate on our Psychology lesson!)
2.Don't chew gum at all (As I said before, nothing wrong with it if you either swallow it or throw it away when you're done)
3.Wear school colours, show your support by going to pep rallies, school football games, etc. and acting like a sheep
4.Act like a little angel at all times and do everything the teachers, coaches, and school admins say
5.If you miss more than four days, we're kicking your @ss out the door!
6.The bathroom in the band hallway is off-limits during lunch. Go around the band hallway, into the main hallway, up three flights of stairs, and then use the restroom there.
7.Organization is more important than education
8.The basic idea: Humans are made to be like drones in a hive, going back and forth for no reason other than that the queen bee says so.