Freedom Of Speech

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I would always error on the side of permissiveness, we are talking speech here, the worst that can happen is someone gets offended. I'd rather that millions be offended than one person's right to express their opinion be stifled, as should be made pretty clear by my one man crusade to offend as many people as possible on the internet

The Chaska Recreation center, just 10 or so miles north of me, has, instead of Christmas celebration, some sort of winter festival about Norse gods and yule. Also, for some unknown reason, at the Ice Palace in Saint Paul, when I went in 2004, they had some celebration about the "god" Vulcan.

f**k cock balls s**t whoremouth

see no freedom of speech

(good Yule is a much less materialistic crap fest then x mas)

A lot of scandinavians in Minnesota, thats were my grandfather was born, I am not to sure how they
celebrate the holidays, I think they roast those rubbery Ikea meatballs over a smoldering yule log.

What was that about?

I think he ate one of those meatballs, they give me a similar reaction, full of colorful metaphors.

I am against absolute freedom of speech because it is constantly abused by (often far right orientated) lobbyists who use it to spread hatred and divide amongst groups of people (racial hatred as most common example) and try to hide behind the freedom of speech.

I am proponent of abolition of freedom of speech and a certain censorship. This does not have to be a huge difference as only in extreme examples when freedom of speech is abused for eg racism, violent talk, blackmailing, etc there should be a law preventing it. And as some statements are on the borderline of what is OK and what's not, a special commission should be created that judges these borderline cases.

I do think absolute freedom of speech is something mankind can simply not handle without some people abusing it.

I live in Britain where free speech has been eroded dramatically since the loony left took power.

For example, anyone who has the guts and the courage to protest against unabated immigration (Britain takes in any scrounging parasite from the four corners of the earth and gives them a free house and handouts for life at the poor taxpayers expense) is branded a racist. This is disgraceful. The immigrants of course have free speech with the full backing of the authorities.

The dichotomy I have with 'free speech' is should those that are using this 'right' to try and restrict others free speech be free to speak it. I honestly cannot decide my viewpoint on this one.

Happens in Belgium as well. And I am glad it happens. Or would you rather let those people in the cold while returning to their own war-torn countries would be their death certificate? For fecks sake, be glad our governments have a heart and morals and offer those people a helping hand. I am welcoming them in Europe and support the multicultural society.

The high ranking politicians who allow them in don't have to live next door to them.
over 80% of Somalians living in Britain have no job.
they are scrounging parasites feeding off the tax payer.

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Btw,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,they are supposed to claim asylum in the first qualifying country that they encounter. Since when has Britain bordered Somalia, Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan etc?

The Somalians are, of those I've met and worked with, rather nice people.

As to the bordering countries: should Somalians seek asylum in Egypt? Should Iranians seek asylum in Iraq? There are usually more highly charged racial and other animosities from nearby countries than there are in countries far away.

A couple of years ago a British policewoman was killed by Somalian gangsters as she tried to stop them committing a robbery. These were brothers and all asylum seekers, one of whom is still on the run and being hidden by the Somalin community.

The law says the asylum seeker should not cross half the world no. But if this asylum seeker happens to think Britain/Belgium/HOlland/Germany/... is a safer place than the country next door... well, if a government then refuses asylum and sends him back home (knowing this is like signing a death cert.) then this government just proves it has no heart at all. I am happy that European governments open their doors to immigrants, especially when we're talking of those who have no other place to go. Other than that, you can learn from other cultures rather than to see them as a threat. If tax money is used to feed and supply them with a house and minimal comfort, then good thing, finally some tax money used for things that are actually useful and humane.

I might have to disagree with this statement a bit. Hate speech with threats is one thing, but when people are expressing their opinions it is another. I myself, have been discriminated against my entire life due to the color of my skin. There are plenty of people out there who hate me just for the way I look. But frankly, that's their opinion and there is nothing I can do about it, and they are entitled to think whatever that want of me, just I am free to think what I want of them. Don't get me wrong...I'm not happy that bigots hate me for my appearance, but I have to admit I have respect for the ones who have the guts to say it. The one's I don't respect are the ones who say...We are all God's children and created equal and peace and love blah blah. Meanwhile, they've got a flag with a swastika hanging in their garage and they are sneaking out at night to spraypaint racial slurs on the side if their neighbor's house like a gutless coward. I would much rather someone tell me the truth than smile in my face while stabbing me in the back. At least that way I know who to steer clear of. There's plenty of views I don't agree with out there, as I'm sure there are plenty who would disagree with mine but we all have the right to say what we think.