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Are you antisemite?
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16 Nov 2005, 11:31 pm

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Wow "antisemitic league" seem to prove my theory wrong. So those were antisemites who actually referred to themselves as such and openly admitted it. Perhaps it has changed because the word ackwired more of a negative stigma later on??? By the way, does antisemitic league still exists in Germany?


I'm sure that an actual group called the 'Anti Semitic League" does not exist in Germany today due to the events that happened over 50 years ago. While there may be a few Neo- Nazi groups and sympathisers in Germany, they appear to have hardly any credibility, and are very unpopular.

FWIW, Germany is a key supporter of Israel.


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16 Nov 2005, 11:53 pm

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Oh joy, the resident anti-Semite pops up. Why is this hater allowed here?
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He may not have to worry.

They have a racket set up where they take American jewish people and send them to Israel for free or close to free. Lots of their expenses are paid. The scheme involves them buying a house, living in it for 2 years, selling it for a profit, then returning to the USA. There is a bunch of USA taxpayer dollars involved. I forget all the details.

What the %#$@ are you talking about? While any Jew that moves to Israel gets benefits, and I'm familiar with them, what you're describing makes no sense. There was problems with Russians forging documents 'proving' Jewish ancestry a few years ago to get Immigrant Assistance to Israel (when they had no right to move to Israel) I've never heard of Americans moving to Israel to return to America at a profit. The allegations of "USA taxpayer dollars" being defrauded show what's in your heart: hatred of Jews.
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It was almost as good as the settlers who left Gaza being paid up to $500,000 USA taxpayer dollars to leave the settlements.

Actually, those people were forced from their homes, those payments are for their property, they have not yet recieved the money, and the US certainly hasn't paid for it!

Machloket


PWNED!! !!



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16 Nov 2005, 11:54 pm

Fogman wrote:
I'm sure that an actual group called the 'Anti Semitic League" does not exist in Germany today due to the events that happened over 50 years ago. While there may be a few Neo- Nazi groups and sympathisers in Germany, they appear to have hardly any credibility, and are very unpopular.

FWIW, Germany is a key supporter of Israel.


Are they (neo-nazis) credible anywhere? And if so, why?!?



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17 Nov 2005, 12:02 am

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Fogman wrote:
I'm sure that an actual group called the 'Anti Semitic League" does not exist in Germany today due to the events that happened over 50 years ago. While there may be a few Neo- Nazi groups and sympathisers in Germany, they appear to have hardly any credibility, and are very unpopular.

FWIW, Germany is a key supporter of Israel.


Are they (neo-nazis) credible anywhere? And if so, why?!?


OK, so 'Credible' was a bad choice of words, 'acceptance' is a better choice.


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17 Nov 2005, 2:28 am

Machloket wrote:
Oh joy, the resident anti-Semite pops up. Why is this hater allowed here?
Happeh wrote:
He may not have to worry.

They have a racket set up where they take American jewish people and send them to Israel for free or close to free. Lots of their expenses are paid. The scheme involves them buying a house, living in it for 2 years, selling it for a profit, then returning to the USA. There is a bunch of USA taxpayer dollars involved. I forget all the details.

What the %#$@ are you talking about? While any Jew that moves to Israel gets benefits, and I'm familiar with them, what you're describing makes no sense.

Machloket


Ya. It doesn't make any sense at all.



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17 Nov 2005, 2:29 am

lowfreq50 wrote:
Machloket wrote:
Oh joy, the resident anti-Semite pops up. Why is this hater allowed here?
Happeh wrote:
He may not have to worry.

They have a racket set up where they take American jewish people and send them to Israel for free or close to free. Lots of their expenses are paid. The scheme involves them buying a house, living in it for 2 years, selling it for a profit, then returning to the USA. There is a bunch of USA taxpayer dollars involved. I forget all the details.

What the %#$@ are you talking about? While any Jew that moves to Israel gets benefits, and I'm familiar with them, what you're describing makes no sense. There was problems with Russians forging documents 'proving' Jewish ancestry a few years ago to get Immigrant Assistance to Israel (when they had no right to move to Israel) I've never heard of Americans moving to Israel to return to America at a profit. The allegations of "USA taxpayer dollars" being defrauded show what's in your heart: hatred of Jews.
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It was almost as good as the settlers who left Gaza being paid up to $500,000 USA taxpayer dollars to leave the settlements.

Actually, those people were forced from their homes, those payments are for their property, they have not yet recieved the money, and the US certainly hasn't paid for it!

Machloket


PWNED!! !!


You might want to do some research Mr Smarty. Then it will be my turn to say:

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17 Nov 2005, 2:31 am

let's not turn this thread into another bicker-fest, chaps, eh?

keep to the argument, and not the people, okay?

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17 Nov 2005, 2:48 am

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let's not turn this thread into another bicker-fest, chaps, eh?

keep to the argument, and not the people, okay?

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I agree Vivi, religious flame wars are never pretty.
I don't even under stand the point of a prejudiced thread in the first place.


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17 Nov 2005, 2:58 am

freedom of speech, mithrandir. whilst overtly racist (sexist, etc) stuff is unacceptable, people have a right to debate their opinion, as long as they qualify it.

it's through debate that people can make informed choices about their own views.



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17 Nov 2005, 4:05 am

Machloket wrote:
Oh joy, the resident anti-Semite pops up. Why is this hater allowed here?


Antisemitism isn't synonymous with anti-zionism. As you said, some of the most religious Jews don't acknowledge the existence of the state of Israel.

The U.S. gives aid to Israel, but as far as I know it also gives aid to Egypt, Lebanon, Jordan and other Arab countries.



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17 Nov 2005, 11:28 am

vetivert wrote:
let's not turn this thread into another bicker-fest, chaps, eh?

keep to the argument, and not the people, okay?

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Saying "Owned" is a bickerfest? I got lots to learn apparently.

I felt it was good natured ribbing.



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17 Nov 2005, 2:26 pm

Happeh wrote:
Saying "Owned" is a bickerfest? I got lots to learn apparently.

8O :? You've got to be kidding me! :roll:



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17 Nov 2005, 2:28 pm

To my knowledge, I am not an antisemite. I actually admire the Jewish people for their frequent intelligence and admire the tradition of their religion.

BTW, I wouldn't really be surprised if there's more Neo-Nazis in the US than over in Germany. In Germany, even any such mentioning is a big no-no so I understand it.


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18 Nov 2005, 12:06 am

Happeh wrote:
vetivert wrote:
let's not turn this thread into another bicker-fest, chaps, eh?

keep to the argument, and not the people, okay?

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Saying "Owned" is a bickerfest? I got lots to learn apparently.

I felt it was good natured ribbing.


Yeah, spelling owned like pwned is internet humor.

Not saying I agree with you, Happeh . . . I was basically giving the other guy a "thumbs up" for his response to you.



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18 Nov 2005, 12:21 am

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Not saying I agree with you, Happeh . . .

How could you (or anyone else for that matter) agree with Happeh? :? :P
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18 Nov 2005, 5:23 am

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To my knowledge, I am not an antisemite. I actually admire the Jewish people for their frequent intelligence and admire the tradition of their religion.

BTW, I wouldn't really be surprised if there's more Neo-Nazis in the US than over in Germany. In Germany, even any such mentioning is a big no-no so I understand it.


In Germany denying the Holocaust is a crime. In America, apparently, it's free speech.

But that's just Germany. There may well be neo-nazis in other parts of Europe.