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29 Nov 2008, 9:54 pm

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"You talk when you cease to be at peace with your thoughts; And when you can no longer dwell in the solitude of your heart you live in your lips, and the sound is a diversion and a pastime. And in much of your talking, thinking is half murdered. For thought is a bird of space, that in a cage of words may indeed unfold its wings but cannot fly.

There are those among you who seek the talkative through fear of being alone. The silence of aloneness reveals to their eyes their naked selves and they would escape.

And there are those who talk, and without knowledge or forethought reveal a truth which they themselves do not understand. And there are those who have the truth within them, but they tell it not in words. In the bosom of such as these the spirit dwells in rhythmic silence.

When you meet your friend on the roadside or in the market-place, let the spirit in you move your lips and direct your tongue. Let the voice within your voice speak to the ear of his ear; For his soul will keep the truth of your heart as the taste of wine is remembered. When the colour is forgotten and the vessel is no more."

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This one was so good, I thought the thread might should die with it. However, it seems to have not and I am feeling rather contraire today so...

"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter." ~ Martin Luther King Jr.



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29 Nov 2008, 9:57 pm

I always wondered why Einstein was so averse to being labeled as a mystic and preferred to be called religious. I see being religious as adhering to the laws of a religion and see mysticism as a personal spiritual journey that may or may not be tied to a religion.

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mys·ti·cism (mst-szm) KEY
NOUN: Mysticism
Immediate consciousness of the transcendent or ultimate reality or God.
The experience of such communion as described by mystics.
A belief in the existence of realities beyond perceptual or intellectual apprehension that are central to being and directly accessible by subjective experience.
Vague, groundless speculation.


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re·li·gious (r-ljs) KEY

ADJECTIVE:
Religious:
Having or showing belief in and reverence for God or a deity.
Of, concerned with, or teaching religion: a religious text.
Extremely scrupulous or conscientious: religious devotion


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mysticism


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29 Nov 2008, 10:01 pm

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The finest emotion of which we are capable is the mystic emotion. Herein lies the germ of all art and all true science. Anyone to whom this feeling is alien, who is no longer capable of wonderment and lives in a state of fear is a dead man. To know that what is impenetrable for us really exists and manifests itself as the highest wisdom and the most radiant beauty, whose gross forms alone are intelligible to our poor faculties - this knowledge, this feeling ... that is the core of the true religious sentiment. In this sense, and in this sense alone, I rank myself among profoundly religious men.
-Albert Einstein
"I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it." ~ Albert Einstein

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I believe there are conflicting quotes on Einstein's exact position on God. I fanything like me his ideas probably changed during the cause of his life.



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29 Nov 2008, 11:04 pm

My religion consists of a humble admiration of the illimitable superior spirit who reveals himself in the slight details we are able to perceive with our frail and feeble mind.
-Albert Einstein


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29 Nov 2008, 11:17 pm

"The religion of the future will be a cosmic religion. It should transcend personal God and avoid dogma and theology. Covering both the natural and the spiritual, it should be based on a religious sense arising from the experience of all things natural and spiritual as a meaningful unity. Buddhism answers this description. If there is any religion that could cope with modern scientific needs it would be Buddhism. " ~ Albert Einstein

Man...he was about as mixed up on the subject as I am. :lol:

Good to see you back, Magnus. Hope you had a nice holiday.
I also like your new signature btw. :wink:



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29 Nov 2008, 11:52 pm

I'm glad you appreciate my signature. :wink: It's nice to see you are still here.

So...did you stuff your turkey with a duck? :lol:

I became violently ill on Thanksgiving. My back and stomach is still sore from vomiting. I lost 5lbs. It was a short lived flu. I'm all better now.

How was your holiday?

Einstein went around in circles in the religion department. Philosophy has a way of spinning heads. I bet we can have Einstein argue with himself by posting some of his own quotes on the matter. It could be funny.


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30 Nov 2008, 12:25 am

Sorry you were sick and glad you are feeling better.

"We know nothing about God at all. All our knowledge is but the knowledge of schoolchildren. Possibly we shall know a little more than we do now. but the real nature of things, that we shall never know, never. ~ Albert Einstien



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30 Nov 2008, 12:37 am

Thanksgiving was never one of my favorite holidays. I prefer St. Patricks day over Thanksgiving. Christmas is my favorite.

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I must try, however, as best I can, although I am very conscious of the fact that our feelings and strivings are often contradictory and obscure and that they cannot be expressed in easy and simple formulas.
-Albert Einstein


Einstein found it hard to express his feelings yet was able to create mathematical formulas and give us string theory. To each his own...


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30 Nov 2008, 9:50 am

AlexandertheSolitary wrote:
[ I believe there are conflicting quotes on Einstein's exact position on God. I fanything like me his ideas probably changed during the cause of his life.


Anyone whose ideas don't change throughout their life isn't thinking..

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"All is flux; nothing stays still."

Heraclitus

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30 Nov 2008, 11:02 am

“Water is life's mater and matrix, mother and medium. There is no life without water.” ~ Albert Szent-Gyorgyi



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30 Nov 2008, 4:28 pm

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“Water is life's mater and matrix, mother and medium. There is no life without water.” ~ Albert Szent-Gyorgyi



In answer Jesus said to her: "If you had known the free gift of
God and who it is that says to you, 'Give me a drink,' you would have asked him, and he would have given you living water."

She said to him: "Sir, you have not even a bucket for drawing
water, and the well is deep. From what source, therefore, do you have this living water?

In answer Jesus said to her: "Everyone drinking from this water will get thirsty again.

Whoever drinks from the water that I will give him will never get thirsty at all, but the water that I will give him will become in him a fountain of water bubbling up to impart everlasting life."

John 4:10

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30 Nov 2008, 5:47 pm

"When the well's dry, we know the worth of water." ~ Benjamin Franklin



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30 Nov 2008, 6:16 pm

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Thanksgiving was never one of my favorite holidays. I prefer St. Patricks day over Thanksgiving. Christmas is my favorite.


Nevertheless.. God hates such festivals.. (but why?)

God loves my seven spirits concept.. much better.. justice and righteousness.. etc.. instead of organzed religion.. and its festivals..:-)

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“I have hated, I have rejected your festivals, and I shall not enjoy the smell of your solemn assemblies, even in your gift offerings I shall find no pleasure. Remove from me the turmoil of your songs; and the melodious sound of your stringed instruments may I not hear. And let justice roll forth just like waters, and righteousness like a constantly flowing torrent.”

Amos 5:18

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I must try, however, as best I can, although I am very conscious of the fact that our feelings and strivings are often contradictory and obscure and that they cannot be expressed in easy and simple formulas.
-Albert Einstein


"When the solution is simple God is answering"

Albert Einstein


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Einstein found it hard to express his feelings yet was able to create mathematical formulas and give us string theory. To each his own...


I read somewhere that some think he might have been an aspi..

He seemed to have some of the triats..

Autism wasn't really understood back then..

His love letters are very funny to read.. they were very formal.

Aspis also like to use formal language.

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30 Nov 2008, 6:39 pm

Einstein was probably an aspie.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRRNeAilrnM&mode=related&search=[/youtube]

There is a book called the Einstein Syndrome.

http://www.amazon.com/Einstein-Syndrome ... 0465081401


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30 Nov 2008, 7:00 pm

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"When the well's dry, we know the worth of water." ~ Benjamin Franklin


"Wash yourselves; make yourselves clean; remove the badness of your dealings from in front of my eyes; cease to do bad.

Learn to do good; search for justice; set right the oppressor; render judgment for the fatherless boy; plead the cause of the widow."

Isaiah

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02 Dec 2008, 12:07 am

"They say, best men are moulded out of faults; and, for the most, become much more the better for being a little bad." ~ William Shakespeare