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02 Apr 2009, 5:44 am

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Think about it! Most of the world
1) Is shallow
2) Is greedy
3) Is callous
4) Is cruel
5) Is status-obsessed
6) Is illogical

Finally, people don't truly believe in love. Their idea of friendship is simply a temporary alliance to gain status. Their idea of a relationship is lust long enough to stay past a one night stand.

Why shouldn't I feel morally superior to them all?


And why shouldn't modest people feel they are superior to you in your arrogance and haste to judge others? Condemn not, lest ye be condemned. Judgment cuts in more than one direction.

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02 Apr 2009, 5:47 am

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It's just difficult when I'm seeing everything fall to pieces.


Everything is falling to pieces (or will eventually). That is the second law of thermodynamics. Entropy of the Cosmos as a whole is increasing.

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02 Apr 2009, 8:17 am

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timeisdead, all of these things are assigned to people with AS. All of these things are slapped on aspies all the time. Its an effect of our neurology, and we dont get to decide if its fair or not. We do not get to make excuses why it doesnt count. Whatever reasons we have are null and void in the minds of others. All they care about is that they are offended, and if they think we are this or that, its not for us to decide.


Why should society decide fairness? If people are offended by me, they can go f themselves. With the way I've been treated, it's hard not to be self centered. If they have the right to judge me, why don't I have the right to judge them?



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02 Apr 2009, 8:19 am

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timeisdead wrote:
It's just difficult when I'm seeing everything fall to pieces.


That is the deception caused by inexperience. The world is a hell of a lot better these days. There is an equally deceptive practice called the illusion of hind sight, and it affects people who are aging. They remember the past as being far more rosy than it was.

I believe that people are naturally inclined towards the path of evil. Things are getting better in some ways and worse in others as time goes on.



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02 Apr 2009, 8:29 am

timeisdead wrote:
Fuzzy wrote:
timeisdead wrote:
It's just difficult when I'm seeing everything fall to pieces.


That is the deception caused by inexperience. The world is a hell of a lot better these days. There is an equally deceptive practice called the illusion of hind sight, and it affects people who are aging. They remember the past as being far more rosy than it was.

I believe that people are naturally inclined towards the path of evil. Things are getting better in some ways and worse in others as time goes on.


Good and evil are highly arguable distinctions, mostly out of religion which lays out laws to discern which is which. Some of these laws seem to be similar in most religions, some are not. Humans are animals and in general and over time are very flexible. Some actions lead to favorable consequences and some can create disasters. Very frequently circumstances determine consequences. Almost any period in history can demonstrate both beneficial and disastrous events. That's how it is.



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02 Apr 2009, 8:32 am

I am me, I can never be evil, for if I were, then I could not abide by myself. :P



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02 Apr 2009, 8:34 am

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DUH you are all missing the point of course we are morally superior to the rest of the world because we have aspergers and that makes it impossible for us

1. Lie
2. Decieve
3. Think in anything but a logical manner
4. Think about anything unless it is in a detailed and principled manner
5. To be greedy


I am able to lie and have done it many times in order to get out of trouble. The more elaborate and unverifiable the story, the better. You also must think 2 steps ahead of the person you are lying to and think of excuses on the spot. There is also bending the truth whenever you see fit. Anyone who says he (she) has never lied is a liar.


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Of course many of us cannot be greedy because we cannot hold down a job and therefore whatever we get is necessary


Many people can be greedy without ever holding down an occupation. Many gold diggers fit that description.

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I really really dislike the idea of 'aspie supremacy'. More and more kids with AS are believing this garbage and I for one feel that it does not do them any good at all to go into the world thinking like this. All that will happen is they will get shunned worse than presently and will live a very lonely life.


Why should I yield to the wills of society? If they shun me, they are the ones with the problem not me.

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As to callous I think it is highly likely that many with AS are (perhaps unintentionally) callous due to our reduced ability to feel empathy, cruelty I would suggest is over represented because it makes good news and status driven; interesting one, I would say that I am not status driven but like many with AS you could accuse me of being self obsessed. Is this a form of self imposed status?


That is a defense mechanism that enables us to cope, thus it is entirely justifiable.



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02 Apr 2009, 8:37 am

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I am me, I can never be evil, for if I were, then I could not abide by myself. :P


Since each of us is a mix of all sorts of stuff your firm denial makes me suspicious that you are afraid of a clear look inside. :lol:



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02 Apr 2009, 8:38 am

Sand wrote:
timeisdead wrote:
Fuzzy wrote:
timeisdead wrote:
It's just difficult when I'm seeing everything fall to pieces.


That is the deception caused by inexperience. The world is a hell of a lot better these days. There is an equally deceptive practice called the illusion of hind sight, and it affects people who are aging. They remember the past as being far more rosy than it was.

I believe that people are naturally inclined towards the path of evil. Things are getting better in some ways and worse in others as time goes on.


Good and evil are highly arguable distinctions, mostly out of religion which lays out laws to discern which is which. Some of these laws seem to be similar in most religions, some are not. Humans are animals and in general and over time are very flexible. Some actions lead to favorable consequences and some can create disasters. Very frequently circumstances determine consequences. Almost any period in history can demonstrate both beneficial and disastrous events. That's how it is.



My definition of wrong is any act that unjustifiably harms an innocent person. There have been beneficial and disastrous events in history but today it seems as if we are headed for third world poverty and possibly World War 3 due to the poor decisions of others.



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02 Apr 2009, 8:50 am

timeisdead wrote:
Sand wrote:
timeisdead wrote:
Fuzzy wrote:
timeisdead wrote:
It's just difficult when I'm seeing everything fall to pieces.


That is the deception caused by inexperience. The world is a hell of a lot better these days. There is an equally deceptive practice called the illusion of hind sight, and it affects people who are aging. They remember the past as being far more rosy than it was.

I believe that people are naturally inclined towards the path of evil. Things are getting better in some ways and worse in others as time goes on.


Good and evil are highly arguable distinctions, mostly out of religion which lays out laws to discern which is which. Some of these laws seem to be similar in most religions, some are not. Humans are animals and in general and over time are very flexible. Some actions lead to favorable consequences and some can create disasters. Very frequently circumstances determine consequences. Almost any period in history can demonstrate both beneficial and disastrous events. That's how it is.



My definition of wrong is any act that unjustifiably harms an innocent person. There have been beneficial and disastrous events in history but today it seems as if we are headed for third world poverty and possibly World War 3 due to the poor decisions of others.


Be assured that the world has always been besieged by terrible conditions and dire possibilities. I am not so optimistic as to not be aware that we may not survive these current times but it is possible a few powerful people may come to their senses.



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02 Apr 2009, 9:03 am

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Think about it! Most of the world
1) Is shallow
2) Is greedy
3) Is callous
4) Is cruel
5) Is status-obsessed
6) Is illogical

i do not agree.
there are some people who fit your criteria of "the world", and they are the people in the world you may have focused on most.
maybe your "view finder" is zoomed in on things you find distasteful, and you think that is all there is.
just using point 1, i bet that if you had 2 people with you and one was "deep", and the other was "shallow", your distaste for the "shallow" person would outweigh your interest in the deep person, so you experience the shallow side of life more due to your revulsion and hypersensitivity to it. your revulsion focuses your mind in that direction.

i do see some things as pathetic and ugly however, but that does not effect me in a sense of thinking i am better than them.
the thing i find most ugly in a person is conceitedness.

"conceit" is the most ugly characteristic a person can have.

but if the people who do things with a pathetic motive, and people who love themselves to death stay out of my way, then i care not that they exist.

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Finally, people don't truly believe in love. Their idea of friendship is simply a temporary alliance to gain status. Their idea of a relationship is lust long enough to stay past a one night stand.
Why shouldn't I feel morally superior to them all?

tinged with paranoia that is. can you not see innocent and simple people as exceptions to your world of "scammers"?

i have no concept of morals, but i am not prone to do dishonest things, and i am lucky that i have no inclination for doing bad things, because if i did have an inclination to do bad things, i would do them.

whatever i have talked my breath out in this post.



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02 Apr 2009, 9:11 am

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Since each of us is a mix of all sorts of stuff your firm denial makes me suspicious that you are afraid of a clear look inside. :lol:

A mix of things? I am homogeneously awesomelyglorious. Everything I do is justified, or will be by the strength of my pride, and even when wrong, I am still right. How could this not be? Whenever I do something, I do it based upon my desire, so who will consider me at fault?



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02 Apr 2009, 9:15 am

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Sand wrote:
Since each of us is a mix of all sorts of stuff your firm denial makes me suspicious that you are afraid of a clear look inside. :lol:

A mix of things? I am homogeneously awesomelyglorious. Everything I do is justified, or will be by the strength of my pride, and even when wrong, I am still right. How could this not be? Whenever I do something, I do it based upon my desire, so who will consider me at fault?


Good gracious, you sound totally desperate.

Razors pain you;
Rivers are damp;
Acids stain you;
And drugs cause cramp.
Guns aren’t lawful;
Nooses give;
Gas smells awful;
You might as well live.

-Dorothy Parker



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02 Apr 2009, 9:39 am

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I believe that people are naturally inclined towards the path of evil. Things are getting better in some ways and worse in others as time goes on.


I believe that people are more lazy and distracted than they are evil. Clearly there are some truly wicked folk among us, but most of us who have gone astray have done so because we have not or will not think matters through.

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02 Apr 2009, 9:40 am

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Good gracious, you sound totally desperate.

Desperate? Who knows. Possibly just bored and controversial.



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02 Apr 2009, 9:47 am

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Good gracious, you sound totally desperate.

Desperate? Who knows. Possibly just bored and controversial.


When a destroyer of worlds gets bored I feel a bit uneasy. Like you might start creating worlds and just look at the mess that made with this one. Destruction is better. But hang on. We may self destruct without your interference.