Should parents be jailed in these cases?

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Is it fair that some children are born blind, deaf, and mentally ret*d due to congenital syphilis? How would you feel if you were the child? Plus, if you aren't ready to take responsibility for a child, you shouldn't be having sex (not to be confused with sexual activity). A woman can take the depo provera shot and use spermicide while the man uses a condom if they are THAT terrified of the whole ordeal. If they NEVER want a child, they should get fixed period.

Last edited by timeisdead on 09 Apr 2009, 9:09 am, edited 1 time in total.

Those born with HIV in those regions of the world often tragically die in their teens. You cannot control it if you are born with it or contract it from a blood transfusion but this is why stricter measures must be in place to prevent this from happening. If I was HIV negative and lived in Botswana for example, I would abstain from sex and move to a relatively nearby country with a lower rate of HIV. I would never sleep with or marry anyone without repeatedly testing that person for STDs.

Fecum sunt! Sh*t happens and it all flows downhill. As long as the public does not have to pay the bill, so what?

ruveyhn

I guess you would be jumping for joy if you were born blind, deaf, and mentally ret*d due to parental irresponsibility

Wait a min, since when can everyone afford contraception, STD testing, abortions, and all the stuff being thrown around here? Not everyone lives in a 1st world country.

Here's a question, is it still the parents fault if they didn't know they had the STD that cause the deformity?

you say you would move out of Botswana if you were HIV free there. And how exactly would you afford it? It it's like its an area know for its rich people.

I'm sorry, but I feel you are crude, unfeeling and completely misunderstanding of great personal tragedies. That there are uncaring parents I do not doubt as these occur amongst many unafflicted parents as well but to pile punishment on great personal tragedy for both parent and child is nothing but downright stupid. I find rubeyn, in general, well aware of physical realities but savagely and selfishly unfeeling to anyone but his closest people but he is perfectly right about the world. It is unfair and s**t happens. What is important is how you deal with it so that people suffer the minimum damage and make the most of whatever lives they have. I have deep personal experience in this matter and I know what is correct.

People should be educated on the consequences of their actions. If I couldn't afford to move out of Botswana, I would remain sexually abstinent.

Since you don't live in Botswana but in Illinois don't think you are wise enough or well informed enough to tell other people how to live their lives. I sincerely doubt you have either the depth of understanding or the personal experience to make such flat statements.

I am unfeeling of a great personal tragedy? Excuse me but who suffers more? The parent or the child? Are children merely property of the parents with no rights of their own? I feel more for the child than the parents who had a choice in the matter.

You did lead me down another path of thought however. I never came to the realization that I would be taking the last thing the child has left; loving parents that will accept the child for who he or she is. This may make it worse.

Perhaps the solution lies in preventative health care and education.

Also what exactly make you think that someone whos Blind or deaf or MR has any less quality of life? I know a few Deaf kids and they have great lives. I had a teacher who was Blind, and he was an amazing English teacher ( yep, blind english teacher). I know tons of MR people and they all have great lives? Why assume that any of these , together or separate, would be detremental to a persons quality of life.

People can adapt very well to some very intense situations.


It seems to me that people think just because someone has a disability ( and in come cases the person is just as "able" as someone with out one) has a inherently sub par life.

I've struggled through many difficulties in life; please don't patronize me. As for Botswana, what I say is common sense considering that the country has an adult HIV rate of 23.9%.

I was judging you by what seems to me highly inconsiderate statements. I have no doubts that people in Botswana as well as most places, make the best of whatever situations come their way. And I am very careful not to harshly judge an entire different culture with its own special social, economic and educational conditions unless I am very well aware of what the individuals are experiencing. People in the USA seem not to be able very well to handle their social and economic problems but even as a US citizen I am very doubtful as to how they should be solved.

What about those who got an HIV test but the test itself failed, should these people who unknowingly have HIV still be punished? Then you have to wonder about he prenatal testing, if the test is flawed, is it fair for someone to not be born based on the inaccurate assumption that they may possibly have some kind of a disability? What is worse for a child, being blind/deaf or not being alive in the first place?

This requires an accurate survey of people not born to decide if they are satisfied to remain that way.

I can say otherwise in four words: People's Republic of China...

You seem to imply that sex is the province of the affluent; I disagree heartily. While I cannot condone their actions, I cannot condemn them to imprisonment for it either. Education, care, support... punishment and prohibition have been shown time and again to be largely ineffective in regards to vices.


M.