Psychology is a backwards science.

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i get the jist of the message, i know the ostrich is just an example, but just wanted to say





ostriches dont bury their head in the sand to hide from predators.
its a myth :]

ostriches are observed stuffing their heads inside bushes, to cool off/escape mosquitos
if theres no nearby bush around, they may stuff their head down a hole in the ground.
hyenas do the same thing.

ostriches are also known to have killed both young lions, and hyenas, including ramming vehicles at the cost of their own lives, so they dont take s**t from anybody :]

A couple of weeks ago, at a speeddater event, I bumped into a criminologist. I thought give her a question to sink her teeth into. Why do homicidal serial killers kill themselves afterwards? She answered, ”because they cannot face what they have done” I was not pleased at all with her answer especially if she considers herself a scientist of the criminal mind.

This is synonymous with, why to ostriches bury their head in the sand “because they cannot face the danger they are facing”.

Or why to my workmates Seat Leon go into limp-home-mode if only driven short traffic journeys “because the engine management computer cannot face fact it is being driven only short journeys, and spites its owner as a result”

Seat Leon born to be wild

Evidently you don't read your own thread. The ostrich thing is a myth. And if you follow the current news, you'll see that homicidal maniacs are not uniformly suicidal. Why go off half cocked on false suppositions?

<crude answer> Religous people see that different laws of psychology apply to human by influence of God and The Devil. I suspect that many NT atheist still follow the pattern even when they don't follow a religion" <crude answer>

you mean you don't believe in the Female Hysteria and the traveling vagina?

*gasp!*

The point I was trying to make is that modern psychology try to explain that people do self destructive thing to fulfill emotional needs. Darwinian psychology do not make the instant assumption that these behaviors are self destructive, they may actually be a survival trait.

Homicidal maniacs do commit suicide after committing the crime enough to warrant an investigation of why they do this. If they decided to have a beer instead of suicide after going on a killing spree psychologist would wonder why beer why not wine.

´When you wake up in the morning and see worms crawling out of your ears and hear God telling you to take a kitchen knife to the little old lady that lives next door I imagine you'll be happy to take some drug devised by psychiatrists to make all that go away. Nobody says it's 100% but at least honest people are trying to help. I'm sure there are scammers and bullshitters in the profession as there are in all walks of life and all theories don't work for all people but to condemn a whole discipline is not helpful.

I refuse to believe in mental problems until they can tell me what and where my "mental" is.

The Russians have a saying. "Some people cannot find their own as*hole with both hands.

Is that the one that goes neep neep? I've heard of the shot putting penis.

psychiatrists don't develop drugs they just peddle them

I think there's another facet to this. In both Thinking in Pictures by Temple Grandin and Vernon Smith's Discovery- A Memoir they talk about the link between neuropsychological atypicalities (like schizophrenia and autism) and note its high incidence in families of the intellectually gifted. To use a Smith quote (Discover - A Memoir, pg. 28):



Particular alleles, which in certain combinations cause low-functioning autism, schizophrenia, or bipolar disorder, may, in other combinations, provide intellectual advantages. This can explain why the genes end up favoured. I know that is a bit digressive, but I find the fact fascinating (Interestingly enough, Schizophrenics can have superior verbal IQs. John Forbes Nash, a brilliant mathematician, happened to be schizophrenic, so that fact is not too surprising.).

It is extremely dangerous to generalize about the capabilities of mentally ill people. That Nash was an extraordinary mathematician does not generalize to all schizophrenic excel in mathematics any more than to accept that all alcoholics are as talented as Poe or, by inversion, that all mathematicians are schizoid.

I think these two sentences are still making the same point, but in a different way. People do not do things, destructive or constructive, unless they are getting something from it. It does not take much psychology to understand that.

I may have muddled matters by including John Forbes Nash, probably unintentionally implying that all mentally ill or mentally atypical people are intellectually gifted. That was not my intention.

I just wanted to further the idea that the same alleles which, in certain combinations, cause mental disorder or atypicality may also cause genius in other combinations. In some combinations, they can cause both.

Many of the gene's that cause schizophrenia have actually been positively selected in regards to evolution. So there is a relationship between schizophrenia and intelligence. Of course, not all schizophrenics are intelligent, but most traits tend to follow a normal distribution.

http://pn.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/content/full/42/21/16