I just bought the Koran

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eipsa2
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07 May 2009, 4:27 pm

While you're at it you should get a copy of Dianetics (i.e. for Scientologists) and there are probably some writings on the tooth-fairy and Santa Claus too...

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07 May 2009, 4:29 pm

..oh i forgot to mention:
It is commendable that you want to arm yourself with knowledge to throw in their faces when you argue against their religion. But you have to remember that it is impossible to argue with religious fanatics (or religious people in general) because they *don't listen to reason*, so any reasonable argument you can come up with is just waved away.. because they don't believe for a reason they just..believe.
So you might as well not waste your time..

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07 May 2009, 8:16 pm

in'challah? <.< (or however you say that?)

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07 May 2009, 10:49 pm

phil777 wrote:

in'challah? <.< (or however you say that?)

yeah, so long as you're north african. traditional arabic doesnt have a ch sound/letter, although i believe it exists in egyptian and maybe iraqi arabic. inchallah is how its written in morocco, algeria...(like i mentioned, n.africa)

proper: insha'llah : in-sha'a-llah.

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spoken like a true noob.

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07 May 2009, 11:30 pm

pandabear wrote:

While you're at it, get yourself a Book of Mormon, too.

I try to be open-minded and nonjudgemental and read "sacred" texts with an unbiased sense, but when I read the book of Mormon, I couldn't stop laughing. To be perfectly honest, I can't understand how anybody can actually take that book seriously.

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07 May 2009, 11:41 pm

normally_impaired wrote:

pandabear wrote:

While you're at it, get yourself a Book of Mormon, too.

The fact that a large many people do take it seriously is an excellent indication of the capability of religiously inclined people everywhere to think clearly.

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07 May 2009, 11:51 pm

Sand wrote:

normally_impaired wrote:

pandabear wrote:

While you're at it, get yourself a Book of Mormon, too.

The fact that a large many people do take it seriously is an excellent indication of the capability of religiously inclined people everywhere to think clearly.

QFT

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08 May 2009, 2:09 am

I think it's cool that he is reading it. People often only read what they already believe.
I tried to read the book of mormon but it was all about war. John Smith seemed very angry.
But, I really didn't give it a chance. I also put it down rather quickly. The mormons I've met were all pretty nice tho.

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08 May 2009, 5:48 am

Magnus wrote:

Not true! I used to read both Superman Comics and Mad Magazine and believed none of it!

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08 May 2009, 1:58 pm

I perceive certain parallels between the Mormons and Moslems.

Joseph Smith supposedly translated the Book of Mormon from Gold Plates (which some angels had lent to him).

An angel revealed the Koran to Mohammed while he was in some sort of a trance in a cave, and he had someone outside the cave record what he was saying.

Joseph Smith wrote the Book of Mormon in something resembling King James English, to give it a false glow of religious legitimacy. It is absolutely the craziest thing that I've ever tried to read. I couldn't make it all the way through. It is much worse than Ayn Rand drivel.

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08 May 2009, 7:11 pm

koreanamerican wrote:

pandabear wrote:

While you're at it, get yourself a Book of Mormon, too.

I've not read it. What do you think?

If you look at the life of Joseph Smith (the book of mormon's author), it'll play out like a national treasure spin-off. The guy's basically a fraud, and he makes stuff up as he goes along. The book of mormon was made under false pretenses (that native americans were a lost tribe of israel), although it is very imaginative. My advice is not to read it unless you plan on socializing with mormons (this usually leads to mormonism).

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08 May 2009, 9:05 pm

http://www.jimmyakin.org/2006/04/mark_twain_and_.html

http://www.salamandersociety.com/marktwain/

http://truthandgrace.com/twainbom.htm

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08 May 2009, 9:31 pm

Really!! !! !??????

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