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07 May 2009, 8:19 am

I don't hate all people, but people think I do.
I only hate people I know I wouldn't just hate any random sod would I?


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07 May 2009, 8:47 am

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Do you hate people?

i do not "hate" anyone.

"hate" implies negative love, and i have no love either.

i think everyone deserves to live their life unobstructed.
i want to live my life unobstructed as well.

so the only exceptions i have in my peaceful mind are those who are obstructing me.
i see them as objects that must be dealt with.
if people let me be, then they can also be.

if they can not let me be... then i will subdue them in some way or another.

i do not hate people, but i want them to keep a healthy distance from my life.
(except for a few who i like).



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07 May 2009, 8:54 am

Lol. I love how you say you hate Islam, yet you walk down the streets with dark thoughts. Couldn't make it up. Well done.

And for the record i tolerate people.



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07 May 2009, 9:01 am

i have a lot of pent up aggression, ill-will & possibly hate.. but hate to me is the opposite of love & although i struggle with the concept of love, i think it right to love everyone equally..
i think the very fact we are conscious & "awake" means we do not deserve death & so i don't think i can rightly hate anyone & wish them suffering because i cannot justify that they "deserve" it.. a lot of religious writings mention "loving your neighbour as yourself" & on this i agree. :)



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07 May 2009, 9:07 am

As someone who was in the exgay movement for 20 years I learned to hate myself.


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07 May 2009, 9:11 am

I forgive all those people now.



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07 May 2009, 1:24 pm

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So 3 weeks ago I got a letter from the "early intervention" declaring that i was non psychotic which was actually a relief. I have ben in alot of trouble for expressing hatred to groups of society most Islam, however i have a reputation of being xenophobic, chauvinistic, classist and so on. Basicaly I have expressed hatred(mainly towards my family)for every social group and nationality on earth and i wouldn't say i am patriotic. My criminal record is absolutely spotless and so my family just think i'm attention seeking which I would love to agree too but the scary truth is i have a hatred for people. When I walk down a street I get dark thoughts, although I do have friends these thoughts have been consistent for years now and I fear they will not go away despite effort to look at the positives and generally I hate my personality and thoughts. Does anyone else have an intensive hatred?


Before I knew what Aspergers was, I really seemed to have developed a hatred toward the general population. I viewed them as sheep really. Ignorant, annoying, meaningless, rude, evil, selfish, gluttonous, self indulging, and just really stupid. (I could go on). I always said, people should be happy I am not God because if I were God, there would be a second flood. Seriously, if I created mankind, I'd probably would have given up a long time ago and wiped them out and tried it again with a new Adam. I know as crazy as all that sounds, what I will say next sounds even crazier. I really just prayed a lot, and I feel like God really wanted me to find love for His creation only because they were His creation. So, I spent many years trying to find patience and acceptance for all these idiots I seem to be surrounded by, and I tried to love them even though they may not deserve it. As I was developing a compassion for these people, I learned about Aspergers and realized now, it's not that they are all those awful things I think they are as much as they just seem that way from my perspective.

Now, I still seem to have a hatred and bitterness forming around Baptists. I just really can't stand fake people. You know those weird religions where women can't wear pants or jewelry, at least they live out what they preach. Baptists preach one thing and feel like just preaching it is the same as doing it, so they all scurry about with this false, delusional belief that they are right and everyone else is wrong and they are the righteous and everyone else is sinners all the while using God as a mask to cover the sinful heathens they really are. They just plop their butt right on that throne and start pointing and yapping about sin. See what I mean? There's a hatred there. Obviously, not all Baptists are like that. I am aware of that, but such a high percentage of people in the Baptist church are like that to make it easier to prove a correlation.

I really need to find a way to face my past that started this hatred and make peace with it. It's kinda like a tension migraine. You can massage your head all you want, but if the knot is in your lower back creating a series of knots up your spine into your neck, your head is going to hurt until you manage to work out those knots (whether it be massage or muscle relaxers). I really think a lot of my hatred toward people stem from moments in my past (like that knot in the lower back), and the longer I go without working out that knot, the worse the rest of me is going to get. I had a Baptist church do me dirty in high school. So, that's probably why I don't think so highly of their members. Sadly, they are just one example as I'm now thinking of other groups of people I've generalized into a hatred like the navy, handicap drivers, men with short man syndrome, narcissistic males, blonde female drivers, etc. I don't hate them like I do Baptist church, but I do seem to have a very negative generalization for those groups of people, and sometimes, I do judge based on it. Like, if I see a handicap driver in the Walmart parking lot, I know they are not going to yield to pedestrians, so I just stand there and wait till they have left the parking lot area before proceeding into the store. Or, if I get a job and I can spot my new boss could suffer from short man syndrome, all the sudden, I have no trust for that man and start looking for a new job.

Either way, hate is unhealthy and takes away from beauty. That, and it's really draining...like a fist fight, like a high where you have some adrenaline pumping followed by crash of fatigue. They say the good die young, and if that is true, then I'm sure the good had a better quality of life in the little time they spent here. I would much rather die younger and happier than living old and bitter; however, I do want to see my children grow old and get married. My dad died when I still needed him, so I have a little thing where I really don't want to leave my children when they still need me. As much as I may have hated the general population, I almost have to depend on members of that population to care for my kids if I do die when my kids are still young. So, in my case, my hatred would interfere with my overall mission, so I must grow past that somehow.

I'm sure someday, you will find how it would benefit you more to not hate groups of people than to hate them. Until then, just assume it serves your better interest to not hate them (blindly assume which is hard to do at your age, but try it on for a few years and see how it goes). As someone else already said, hate is a negative love. Sometimes, you might hate an ex only because you loved them so much and they broke your heart. People think I'm psychic when I see someone being vindictive to their ex that I remind them that they must still love that person no matter how much they claim otherwise, and they usually admit to it and assume I'm psyhic when really I just know how hate operates. But in other cases, sometimes hate stems from fear. Many white men hated black men because they feared the black man. In which case, we fear something because we percieve it as a threat to something we do love. I really think many Muslim type terrorist organizations hate America because of fear. I'm willing to bet most of that fear they have stems from more perceived threats than actual threats. On the flipside, George Bush does a speech about how we won't be afraid after 9/11, and then develops ten million missions and reactions that only proved him otherwise. Anyway, hate only shows how weak you are, especially if it results from fear. So sometimes the best way to deal with it is to try to discover what causes your specific hate and learn how to either make peace with it (i.e. ex breaking your heart) or learn how to overcome it (i.e. truth will set you free, face your fears, etc.).

Okay, I'd edit some, but I seem to be adding more the more I attempt to edit, so I'm just going to stop midthought before this gets even longer.



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07 May 2009, 1:54 pm

I don't hate people in general, but I can be pretty intolerant if someone does or says something that annoys me when I'm feeling irritable. :twisted:

Lets just say I dislike alot of traits common in many people... I don't have a seething anger against humanity, just not a great deal of faith in it.


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07 May 2009, 2:23 pm

People are the scum of the earth. The planet would be better off without them. :evil:


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07 May 2009, 2:40 pm

Icheb wrote:
People are the scum of the earth. The planet would be better off without them. :evil:

:rofl:

Do you regard yourself in such a manner? Or are you special?



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07 May 2009, 2:47 pm

I realized I don't hate people personally. After all their are just robots with their brains programmed since birth. If there is something to hate is this living thing being implanted into our minds called society, which involves culture, trends, habits, ways to communicate, traditions. Those are the thing's I hate about people, the fact that they carry those annoying traits, and even worse, not knowing it. I kinda feel in a world surrounded by robots, and I have to keep quiet and not disturb their tasks, or else I'll be eliminated, the system is designed to fix or destroy what is alien to it.



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07 May 2009, 4:32 pm

jdn74 wrote:
You can't change other people, but you can change you and how you react. You CAN change your mind. With practice it gets easier, but its a never ending endeavor. Its a price worth paying.


Once, for a class, I was assigned to consciously think something positive ("Have a nice day", "May you get something you want") at every person I passed. The results were very interesting.



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07 May 2009, 4:32 pm

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People are the scum of the earth. The planet would be better off without them. :evil:

i agree in so much as humanity can be a nasty bunch.. & not everyone can be "shown the light" , but would you honestly rather none of it existed? i have said such things but i think people have Huge!! untapped potential & i'd much rather try to help them see it & grow as a person, than just "remove" them from existence..
the planet would indeed be better off without us, pollution wise etc.. but we wouldn't know, like the tree that falls unseen in the forest



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07 May 2009, 7:44 pm

I love people, even though they can sometimes drive me crazy. To me they're almost like my children, or pets; there's something inherently good inside them (underneath all their bizarre actions and rituals which can sometimes be annoying or downright nasty) that you can't help but feel fondness for.

I've never met a person where I didn't see that goodness underneath (since i've become more perceptive at an older age).


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07 May 2009, 8:00 pm

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An early diagnosis can help to put appropriate support into place for both the individual and their families.


Not in my case.

It was completely inappropriate.

Any so called "treatment" just made me feel patronised and even angrier.
It drove a wedge between myself and those who cared about me.

I'm angry and depressed at other people for having labeled me with a "disorder" and not seeing me as an individual.

I'm not "diseased", it's just that people who are naturally less socially inclined and are different get treated as if they are "diseased" when they don't meet other people's hyper-social expectations.

Some of my family are like this and I don't think they're "diseased". It's just how they are.

I'm angry that capable people are being sidelined and not understood in this way.

I am frightened to be labeled or seek help now, inspite of my social difficulties because of the way I was treated. I was treated like a walking label, not a human being capable of independent thought. I'm angry at how my early intervention stunted my social development, made me frightened, alienated me from the other kids and didn't teach me anything remotely useful.

People should be understood on their own terms, not by some "perfect social model" that everyone should aspire to. People are different. People not appreciating this difference or giving other people a chance to prove themselves makes me angry. Prejudice makes me angry.

Misinformation makes me feel angry and depressed.
Other people pathologising my personality makes me feel angry.
People patronising me and calling me "diseased" or "disordered" makes me feel depressed and broken.


I can relate to this almost completely. However, I view some of my analytic and psychological talents as a direct result of being labeled, alienated and treated like a subhuman. Sure, I got a few personality disorders in the process and turned into mini-Hitler, all thanks to early intervention, but I also learned to understand things on a new level. I feel aware, I can see through people and I can sense their true character. If someone is small minded I feel it. If someone is sexually frustrated I feel it. If someone has a low self esteem I feel it.
I'm a sort of sociopath, this is thanks to early intervention. If I would have had a peaceful childhood in perfect harmony it might have made me more stupid, because AS might have remained as a blur between me and the ability to interpret and understand people.



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07 May 2009, 10:05 pm

I wouldnt say I hate people but I do feel pretty disconnected from people at this point of my life. I think that is really the issue, though I do feel pretty angry at people sometimes. Perhaps it is something I can heal though.