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08 May 2009, 9:53 am

What's not to love about feces?



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08 May 2009, 10:36 am

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Feces are, I suppose, proof that neither God nor evolution, pick which you will, can come up with a totally effective digestive system. Although, it's not just food waste - there's a whole bunch of sloughed-off intestinal lining cells, bacteria and broken-down blood products in there too. It may just be the most effective way of getting rid of all that. The fact that it grosses anyone out isn't really the point.

Although, Martin Luther certainly believed the Devil was in charge of the bowels and their functions. He always used to have conversations with Satan when he was sitting on the john, apparently...


Since most animals have no use for waste products and feces frequently carry disease, evolution has taught us to be repelled by our feces. There is no nourishment in them and it would be unproductive if we found them delicious. Nevertheless rabbits frequently eat their feces to replenish the bacteria in their gut that permits them to digest cellulose. If baby rabbits do not consume a portion of feces they cannot digest their food. Evidently most humans do not have this problem and no matter what my kitchen skills have been I have never thought it worthwhile to spice up a meal with a dash or two of shi t.



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08 May 2009, 11:20 am

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ThatRedHairedGrrl wrote:
Feces are, I suppose, proof that neither God nor evolution, pick which you will, can come up with a totally effective digestive system. Although, it's not just food waste - there's a whole bunch of sloughed-off intestinal lining cells, bacteria and broken-down blood products in there too. It may just be the most effective way of getting rid of all that. The fact that it grosses anyone out isn't really the point.

Although, Martin Luther certainly believed the Devil was in charge of the bowels and their functions. He always used to have conversations with Satan when he was sitting on the john, apparently...


Since most animals have no use for waste products and feces frequently carry disease, evolution has taught us to be repelled by our feces. There is no nourishment in them and it would be unproductive if we found them delicious. Nevertheless rabbits frequently eat their feces to replenish the bacteria in their gut that permits them to digest cellulose. If baby rabbits do not consume a portion of feces they cannot digest their food. Evidently most humans do not have this problem and no matter what my kitchen skills have been I have never thought it worthwhile to spice up a meal with a dash or two of shi t.


Sh1t is chock full of potentially dangerous pathogenic bacteria, like E Coli for example. From the standpoint of evolution, s**t makes sense. But if there is a God and "he" created this stuff, it was very poor taste on his part. :lol:



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08 May 2009, 12:16 pm

Fecestious topic

So we can anal-yze. :roll: Does this make me a fecist? :P

Waste bi-products of the digestive process. any living, breathing organism that moves under its own steam and ingests its nourishment is going to need to crap now and then.


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08 May 2009, 2:54 pm

This explains why Adam and Eve weren't supposed to eat the apple, which would bring the knowledge of good and evil.

Apples are high in fiber.


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09 May 2009, 12:42 am

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This explains why Adam and Eve weren't supposed to eat the apple, which would bring the knowledge of good and evil.

Apples are high in fiber.


IN PRAISE OF APPLES

"An apple a day,"
The prescription goes,
"Keeps the doctor away.",
And so transfers the evil
To doctors.
Simpleminded,
But it works.
The love from Mother Earth
Manifests in apples.
They cure multitudes of maladies,
Suffuse the flesh
With clarity and strength,
Sharpen the mind
To mow down moments
With precision.
They cured Adam of God.



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09 May 2009, 5:20 am

It's an essential part of the divine plan for human history.

Anybody who's done any hunting or tracking knows how much essential information you get from animal droppings.

Without poop, Esau wouldn't have been able to track down an animal to kill, so Jacob wouldn't have had the opportunity to lie to his blind father to steal from his brother so he could be remembered as a big hero and get a country named after him.


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09 May 2009, 6:11 am

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But nobody has ever been able to find the missing link between the mouth and the butt.


it takes "guts" to connect one's mouth with his anus.
but many peoples mouths are connected to other people's butts.
(tan of tongue are they)

seriously, i think god's real "flock" are bacteria. i think he created the universe for them.
he farm's all species of animal, so when they die, they provide a banquet for his subjects, the bacteria.

but he gives his bacteria blessings each day while the livestock fatten up.
they are parcels of "goodness" that drop from the rear of each animal each day.

i do not know why he made us intelligent though. we could defecate with similar ease if we had the minds of asses. maybe it is because god wanted us to refine our foods and diets so that human feces is the most "putrefantastic" type.
maybe only most elite bacteria like "rockerfeller" status pathogens get to gorge themselves on s**t that is produced from digesting greasy cheeseburgers.

maybe a dump from a fat truck driver who eats at diners is like "sunset boulevarde" for them to reside in.

really, the world is made for bacteria, and bacteria are made for the world.
they were here first and will be here last.
there are more bacteria on my body than people in america.

bacteria are doing so well and yet they get inevitable gifts every day from the bums of all animals.

i wonder which individual bacterium god favors most. i wonder where it is.

so god created us so we would eat well and feed his little pets.



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09 May 2009, 7:09 am

The latest scientific reports indicate there are ten times more bacterial cells within the body than "human" cells. We are bacteria.



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09 May 2009, 7:41 am

It's really quite frustrating to me how much our culture seems to loathe poop.

"How's your boyfriend?"
"I dumped him today. He was a real as*hole."
"Oh, did you?"
"He told me our relationship was crappy."
"Well you don't have to take that s**t from him!"
"Yeah, that's why I dumped him."

and so on. We even have snakes in Christianity and call it 'sinful business,' as if it were a shameful act. To be honest, I used to be something of a fecophobe. Thoughts about poop made me extremely anxious. Now, I think I've far overcome it. Poop is useful to the environment, as long as it doesn't endanger wildlife.

If you want to know more about the effect on the world of going to the bathroom, I recommend sending a letter or email to your local wastewater treatment company asking if excrement poses any threat to wildlife in your county or area -- say, through the production of algae -- and if so, if there are any volunteer activities to reduce the threat.

Fortunately for me, they told me it was safe.


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09 May 2009, 12:39 pm

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It's really quite frustrating to me how much our culture seems to loathe poop.

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Why? It smells nasty, looks ugly, and its full of pathogens. I dont care how natural it is, its by far the most disgusting substance in the Universe.



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09 May 2009, 12:51 pm

What's interesting to me is the way it's treated in this and other websites. Like f**k, sh*t seems totally unprintable unless you use trick typography. But manure, defecation, poop, etc seem perfectly acceptable.



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10 May 2009, 1:28 am

Haliphron wrote:
MikeH106 wrote:
It's really quite frustrating to me how much our culture seems to loathe poop.

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Why? It smells nasty, looks ugly, and its full of pathogens. I dont care how natural it is, its by far the most disgusting substance in the Universe.

I'd be interested in seeing the idea that human feces being loathed is a "cultural" thing. Given the sanitary issues, the idea that the revulsion is natural seems quite plausible.


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10 May 2009, 12:21 pm

When you see that your poop looks nasty, it doesn't mean you are a bad artist. It would be an instance of the fallacy of the undistributed middle for someone to attempt to infer that against you.

What I find stressful is not the poop per se (Glade Neutralizer at 83 cents a bottle takes care of that) but the idea of being scolded, punished, or rejected by other members of my peer group on poop-related matters. We also have what are, in my opinion, badly-designed toilets in public restrooms that put you in the habit of holding your legs apart, which allows concentrated poop-smell to permeate the room.

Why do they do this to us? I don't know; it might be another plutocratic maneuver to oppress the lower classes. In Japan, they have toilets that spray you so that you don't even have to get up before you flush. Are we too insecure to use them?


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10 May 2009, 2:52 pm

twoshots wrote:
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MikeH106 wrote:
It's really quite frustrating to me how much our culture seems to loathe poop.

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Why? It smells nasty, looks ugly, and its full of pathogens. I dont care how natural it is, its by far the most disgusting substance in the Universe.

I'd be interested in seeing the idea that human feces being loathed is a "cultural" thing. Given the sanitary issues, the idea that the revulsion is natural seems quite plausible.


Have you ever noticed how certain smells are revolting to nearly 99% of people regardless of what culture they come from. Im really surprised you would even consider it to be a cultural thing. Not to sound patronizing but is it common for those with a background in philosophy to think that most of human preferences are due to societal conditioning? You know, the whole tabula rasa concept? :?



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10 May 2009, 5:57 pm

No, that would be both a straw man and a hasty generalization.

One of my ultimate concerns regarding poop is that it is somehow being used as an excuse to make people feel guilty. No offense, but people need to poop to live.

As I've shown, it's possible to completely eliminate the concentrated smell of poop. One step toward that goal is the design of better toilets. Another step is to buy odor neutralizer and set it next to your toilet -- it's really quite cheap.

It may also prove useful to make sure wastewater treatment doesn't endanger wildlife in your area.

Once we've solved those problems, what problem is left?


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