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27 May 2009, 10:36 pm

If there must be an Islam day (I think everyone should get one then), I think 9/11 is rather appropriate considered how the middle east celebrated it.


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27 May 2009, 10:51 pm

Yeah it indeed was V-day a great celebration for some of the Muslims after 9/11. There's no denying that...


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27 May 2009, 10:59 pm

One of the best things about Christianity is the sheer number of public holidays with mandatory treats - chocolate eggs, presents etc...

I'm open to any other religion that wants to provide global free holidays too - especially those with consumerist bonuses.

I'm getting enough chocolate so instead, how about one of the religions celebrating a "world donut day"? We could have them in the shape of an idol. Even better if you can include a four-day weekend in it too.



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28 May 2009, 2:17 am

John_Browning wrote:
If there must be an Islam day (I think everyone should get one then), I think 9/11 is rather appropriate considered how the middle east celebrated it.


I think it would be much more productive, rather than turning to a single outlet (Islamist terrorist) for radical anger in the Middle East, to mourn for the dual tragedies of that date. The 2001 World Trade Center Attacks and 1973 anti-democratic coup in Chile both deserve a memorial day, don't let Islam overshadow the tragedies.



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28 May 2009, 2:51 am

Obres wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Hawaii voted to create an "Islam Day" to celebrate the religion that killed nearly 3,000 people on 9/11.
But what's odd is that the day chosen is September 24th -- close enough to remind Americans of 9/11 when they read or hear "Isalm" and "September" together, as they will whenever they read or hear about this new holiday. So, if everyone's already going to think of 9/11 whenever they read or hear "Islam Day, September 24th", why not just move it to the day everyone's really thinking of?

To the "Religion of Peace!"

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I know we're not supposed to flame and all, and that this post will probably be deleted, and that I might be banned or at least lectured by the mods, but there's just no other response to this thread. You're a f***ing moron.

it won't be deleted. ragtime is the one to go to to stir stuff up



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28 May 2009, 5:44 am

I'm actually for secular only public holidays, but this thread is an all time low for Ragtime. Scraping the bottom of the barrel.



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28 May 2009, 8:52 am

There is quite a similarity between Islam and Christianity...


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28 May 2009, 9:10 am

I still like to call it "FAUX News."

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28 May 2009, 9:21 am

What day do we celebrate 'Christian Day'? or 'Catholicism day'?

Historically speaking there probably isnt a day on the calander that millions of people werent slaughtered in the name of the christian god.



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28 May 2009, 9:59 am

Islam already has religious holidays. You'd know this if you actually did research on the actual religion instead of copping out and getting your information from biased sources.

Pick up an Encyclopedia or other reference book rather than counting on the internet or the TV to provide you with accurate information.


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28 May 2009, 11:02 am

The difference (obviously) between Christianity and Islam is that Jesus didn't tell His followers to kill people. Mohammed did. In writing.

Also, whereas Christianity has had some bloody times in its history, Islam has had NOTHING BUT bloody times since its inception. Their has never been "peace and goodwill toward men" (Luke 2:14) in Isalm, but rather the exact opposite. This is, again, due to the differing natures of the two religions' respective texts. The Qu'ran tells its readers to kill everyone who isn't Muslim, while the Bible teaches the opposite: Jesus said to LOVE our enemies and to PRAY FOR them. The Qu'ran teaches hate toward, and killing of, all non-Muslims; the Bible teaches love and respect toward all non-Christians.

So I say again, any American holiday celebrating Islam is most appropriately set for September 11th. All 19 hijackers were frevent Muslims, and they believed religiously in what they were doing. And, unlike with the Christian Crusaders, the religious book which the 19 Muslim hijackers adhered to backs up their murderous actions completely. They were only being good Qu'ranic Muslims in their terrorist attacks on 9/11. Whereas it's Biblically obvious that the Christian Crusaders were bad Biblical Christians.


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28 May 2009, 11:38 am

:roll:


Wouldn't life just be a lot more simple without any religion.



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28 May 2009, 12:01 pm

ladyinred wrote:
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Wouldn't life just be a lot more simple without any religion.


Actually, I think humans are biologically programmed to pursue religion in some form. Not necessarily organized, official religions, but at the very least some kind of belief system with religious characteristics. If we humans don't believe in something greater than ourselves, we lose our sense of purpose, and of perspective, and that's vastly detrimental to anyone's life.


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28 May 2009, 12:05 pm

Ragtime wrote:
Hawaii voted to create an "Islam Day" to celebrate the religion that killed nearly 3,000 people on 9/11.
But what's odd is that the day chosen is September 24th -- close enough to remind Americans of 9/11 when they read or hear "Isalm" and "September" together, as they will whenever they read or hear about this new holiday. So, if everyone's already going to think of 9/11 whenever they read or hear "Islam Day, September 24th", why not just move it to the day everyone's really thinking of?

To the "Religion of Peace!"

:roll:


Are there many muslims on Hawaii?



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28 May 2009, 12:16 pm

Ragtime wrote:
ladyinred wrote:
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Wouldn't life just be a lot more simple without any religion.


Actually, I think humans are biologically programmed to pursue religion in some form. Not necessarily organized, official religions, but at the very least some kind of belief system with religious characteristics. If we humans don't believe in something greater than ourselves, we lose our sense of purpose, and of perspective, and that's vastly detrimental to anyone's life.


No. I think religion is what actually screws us up. Animals get on fine, just acting on instinct, its when we think too much that we f**k things up. Considering its religion thats causing all the wars in the world, I think we could do just fine without it. People feel like there has to be something greater than ourselves, cause they have no self control. If you can be a decent and honest person in life, without being brainwashed by a book, you should feel proud.



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28 May 2009, 12:30 pm

What about the Buybull passages that do encourage people to kill?


http://www.evilbible.com/Murder.htm