Islam is a pro-Aspergers religion (unlike Christianity)
True Christianity promotes love for God and neighbour - anyone who hates you without good reason eg Adultery, Murder or something else serious isn't a true Christian
True christians forgive others readily and seek to make up on grievances - it isn't right for you to cast aspersions upon Christianity as a whole but it would be acceptable to identify problems in those who claim to practice Christianity. Jesus in Matthew 7 said the following
16 By their fruits YOU will recognize them. Never do people gather grapes from thorns or figs from thistles, do they? 17 Likewise every good tree produces fine fruit, but every rotten tree produces worthless fruit; 18 a good tree cannot bear worthless fruit, neither can a rotten tree produce fine fruit. 19 Every tree not producing fine fruit gets cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Really, then, by their fruits YOU will recognize those [men].
21 “Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the kingdom of the heavens, but the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will. 22 Many will say to me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name?’ 23 And yet then I will confess to them: I never knew YOU! Get away from me, YOU workers of lawlessness.
Being a Christian literally means following Jesus in the same way Herodians followed Herod. This means reading, meditating and acting on verses in the bible which encourage you to love your neighbour and have compassion for others.
I have heard accounts of muslim man beating their wives violently and maltreating them [while others looked on and didn't respond
- just because a few professed Christians fail to live upto their name doesn't mean Christianity as a whole is bad and I know some muslims are nice people who wouldn't think of doing such an act.
Basically look at what the bible says and what each religion practices and find one which does and believes what the bible says.
But then I started reading about Islam and it seemed like a much more accepting relgioun. I started going to Masjid ("mosque", to you heathens) and it was so much more welcoming than any chrurch i have ever been too... I felt like all us Muslims there were one big family, and actually, in Allahs eyes, we are. Nobody made a big deal about me being an aspie, or being a satirist... i went to at least 3 mosques in my area, and my experienc was the same at each one. I also found other muslim aspies who have reported the same opinions, they're all happier as Muslims! i think have found the best religion not just for myself but for all Apsergians and all mankind. What do you think? Do you all think that Islam is the best faith for Aspies? Do you think that maybe it was just the Christians in my area that were stuck up and stupid, or is xtianity in general just a dum and close-minded religion?
I'm happy you found an accepting organization, but I say give it time. You'll find the jerks eventually.
Being a Christian literally means following Jesus in the same way Herodians followed Herod. This means reading, meditating and acting on verses in the bible which encourage you to love your neighbour and have compassion for others.
It turns out you don't need the bible to do that. And people who follow the bible closely rarely do it anyway.
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The bible sure helps,. the people who maltreated you with the Asperger's do not read the bible [or they do not apply it] because they don't have the kind of Christian Love for neighbour that Jesus said we all should.
The bible helps people see that the traditions of men mean nothing and that it is crucial to follow Jesus' example [read Matthew 7 in full]
The fact is that both Christians and Muslims are human beings with a human nature. Just as there are "good" Christians and Muslims, there are "bad" ones.
The Bible hardly has a say in how a Christian treats you as a person. He's either loving and compassionate or he's not.
But, yeah, Eric_crooks is being extremely biased.
This is slightly off-topic but I occasionally browse through some of the posts on this thread and I have seen a comments about the Prophet Mohammad (peace be upon him) 'having sex with a nine year old' (or something along those lines), and about stoning adulterers to death etc. I would like to say that as a Muslim I believe in neither of those things, and the reason for that being that there is no reason for me to do so. The practice of stoning adulterers to death is not legalised in the Qur'an which Muslims believe to be the word of God. Therefore I do not deem it to be a part of Sharia law and I am not the only Muslim in the world who thinks this, I assure you.
Also, as far as Aisha goes, there is a lot of historical evidence to prove that she was between the ages of 18 and 20 when she married the Prophet Mohammad (pbuh), not nine years of age, and also as far as I am aware, no reliable evidence that they ever had sexual relations at all. There is a pretty good video on youtube that sums up the historical evidence that proves that Aisha must have been between the ages of 18 and 20 when she married the Prophet Mohammad (pbuh), and if anyone is interested it is here: [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4P_9ZXOGQR4[/youtube]
Just thought I would make those things clear, as they had been bugging me a little.
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The bible has a say in how Christians treat others
True Christians follow the example of Jesus as set out in the bible - those who do not aren't Christians, which literally means followers of [Jesus] Christ
Jesus treated others with compassion and respect - true Christians do likewise. [Those who don't aren't followers of Jesus, they aren't Christians]
True Christians follow the example of Jesus as set out in the bible - those who do not aren't Christians, which literally means followers of [Jesus] Christ
Jesus treated others with compassion and respect - true Christians do likewise. [Those who don't aren't followers of Jesus, they aren't Christians]
Like kicking over the tables of those who sold sacrificial items according to Jewish law. The so-called money-lenders.
ruveyn
True Christians follow the example of Jesus as set out in the bible - those who do not aren't Christians, which literally means followers of [Jesus] Christ
Jesus treated others with compassion and respect - true Christians do likewise. [Those who don't aren't followers of Jesus, they aren't Christians]
Like kicking over the tables of those who sold sacrificial items according to Jewish law. The so-called money-lenders.
ruveyn
Oh man, LOL, that's a good call Ruveyn.
To Ben10, why don't we just trash the rest of the Bible? If what Christ said is the only thing that matters, what's the rest of it for? And there's some horribly unjust stuff in the scriptures. I've read all but 1 book.
Jesus turned over their tables because they, the people selling Levitically clean animals for sacrifice at the temple were charging excessive costs. People would travel for miles and wouldn't want to risk bringing an animal which didn't meet the required standard.
Jesus expressed how angry he was that the people selling animals at the temple were profiting excessively at others expense - that is why he said that they were turning his fathers house into a den of thieves.
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The prophesies and the law foreshadowed Jesus
Compare Deuteronomy 6:5 with what Jesus called the greatest and first commandment in Matthew 22 and you will find that it has always been crucial to love God wholeheartedly. The need to follow the law was done away with with Jesus' institution of the Christian faith - through Jesus shed blood humans no longer need to follow a written law.
Also Acts 15:14 mentions that a people to bear Gods name were chosen who would become his own - the Jews didn't achieve this because they kept the commands of men rather than Gods requirements.
Says who? The rabbinical courts in power at the time would have dealt firmly with any prince gouging.
The money-lender scenario is the favorite of Christian anti-semites and Jew haters. The next favorite is the Synagogue of Satan schtick.
ruveyn
Maddycakes makes a point that not all Muslims follow Sharia the same laws. The Wahabbis who rule Sa'udi Arabia and make up most of the terrorist ranks may follow that path. There are other Sunni groups like Salafis and those who follow literalist ideas from Hambal, who was an ancient literalist. There are Shi'ah who are militarist and in old timesp there were Almovahids. In the 17th century, there were Shah Auranzeb's followers.
Stoning a woman is a tradition that goes back to Hebrew times and appears to be a Semitic tribal custom of punishment that Hebrews and Arabs shared. As for as marrying a nine year old. It was done in ancient times. Romans and Greeks did it. Perhaps it was a betrothal. Even in 19th century Europe, two children would be betrothed as young as 8 or 9. Perhaps the family of the girl arranged for her to be betrothed to Muhammed (Peace Be Upon Him) , but he married her at a later date. Marriage as young as 13 was common and was common in America even up to WWII.
So perhaps they were Betrothed when she was 9. Not married. There wre also proxy weddings that took place before the girl was of marriage age. The wedding was consummated at a later date after another marriage ceremony. Keep in mind women did not live long on average back then. They were married young. In fact, men had longer lifespans at that time.
I'm just going to leave this here.
http://www.cracked.com/article_18911_5- ... islam.html
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The Bible hardly has any influence on how you treat others. Either you're a loving person by nature or you're not. You don't need a bible to tell you to love others, do you?
So you follow Jesus Christ better than many professing Christians?
What exactly is following the example of Jesus anyway? Atheists may do that, yet they are not Christians.
Jesus also smashed a lot of stuff at the temple. He also didn't seem to have respect for the Pharisees. Therefore, Jesus was Jesus, nothing more, nothing less.
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y'know, atheism is an "everybody's welcome" kind of thing.
Muslims, Jews, Catholics and Christians all don't like someone or some practice. We atheists aren't like that.
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Muslims, Jews, Catholics and Christians all don't like someone or some practice. We atheists aren't like that.
To be fair, I wouldn't completely agree with that bit. I've seen atheists who are quite rude and disrespectful of Christians. There are some atheists who simply don't like Christians.