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Oh so then you're admitting to blaming a dead man for something he didn't do, and the man's sons as well, and apparently that's okay. But it is not okay to blame another man for something he actually did, is that what you're saying?

It's okay if the Koch brother's old man had built a nuclear plant for Joseph Stalin, though.

The John Birch Society were one of the groups that created such a wave of anti-leftist hysteria that resulted in people being dragged before Congress and state legislatures to have their loyalty questioned. Many were black listed, which meant that they weren't able to find work for years. Many not only suffered from depression and anxiety for this, but suicide was often seen as the only way out. Jews, blacks, organized labor, and other traditional targets of the right were singled out, as were artists in the film industry. The Birchers even monitored Rod Serling's The Twilight Zone, so certain were they that something that weird had to be communistic!
No, they may not have done anything illegal, but they helped create a political atmosphere that destroyed the lives of thousands.
And while I know this is drifting into the realm of conspiracy theory, but there is a lot of sound evidence placing Lee Harvey Oswald in the company of John Birch member, and self proclaimed professional anti-communist, Guy Banister, at a time when Oswald had been handing out Pro-Castro literature on the street corners of New Orleans. As a retired FBI higher up, and former Office of Naval Intelligence operative, Banister had been known to infiltrate leftist organizations with agents. This continued after his retirement, this time using employees working for his private detective agency. Banister, as a participant in the joint CIA/Mafia schemes to overthrow Castro, he had grown to despise JFK for his "betrayal" at the Bay of Pigs. If this isn't all just coincidence, then I'd say that at least one Bircher had blood on his hands, and had committed high treason.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
If this isn't just some

Sure, Julius Rosenberg was guilty, but that doesn't mean that everyone who had been black listed were guilty of anything, other than being communists, socialists, or even just Democrats. As a matter of fact, my late Dad had ended up on a blacklist back in the not-so-good old days - apparently for his activities as a union activist. Luckily, he was informed he was on this black list by a fellow church member, who had been an air force officer. This church member had thankfully had enough strings to pull in order to get my Dad's name off the list. As my Dad had never been a member of the communist party, and had never been a subversive of any kind, I am absolutely certain that he wasn't the only person to be black listed for doing nothing wrong.
And by the way, there's nothing wrong in itself with being a communist, either.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

Dude, I'm not suggesting that McCarthy was right in the way he went about things, and he started to politicize the investigations. However, that does not mean that he wasn't right about the Soviets infiltrating our country.

Does the Verona Project mean anything to you?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venona_project

I'll let you do some digging yourself, but the *jest is that Senator McCarthy wasn't as much as a nutcase as the left would like people to believe, and the fact it looks like the John Birch society may have been partially correct in their analysis of what was going on, kinda destroys your argument too.

Oh btw, I got this from watching one of the Republican Debates.

McCarthy had used the Red Scare, and the ruined lives following in it's wake, all for personal aggrandizement. He was a reckless, heartless man who exposed the private lives of others, even though he was himself not only an alcoholic (he in fact died from liver disease), but like his minion, Roy Cohn, he was a closet homosexual.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

Some "Conservatives" will even tell you that Hitler wasn't such a bad guy, after all. Just wait for "Conservatives' to send each other greeting cards on the Fuhrer's birthday.

More likely on Alexander Hamilton's birthday. That would be Jan 11 not April 20.

ruveyn

Not likely. Hamilton's mother was an adulteress. He was born out of wedlock.

He also laboured assiduously against "states rights", and for an expanding role for the federal government.

Still, "Conservatives" will be more likely to celebrate Hamilton's birthday than MLK's.

Regarding his affair with Maria Reynolds

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_Reynolds

"Conservatives" would say "At least he wasn't gay."

Perhaps. But Right Wing conservative have bought into the idea of a corporate government partnership (which will put them at an advantage) and thus have subscribed to Alexander Hamilton's vision. As opposed to that of Thomas Jefferson who envisioned the U.S. as being primarily agricultural and therefore virtuous.

ruveyn

Except that Right Wing conservatives pretend to be against corporate-government partnerships.

Perhaps. But Right Wing conservative have bought into the idea of a corporate government partnership (which will put them at an advantage) and thus have subscribed to Alexander Hamilton's vision. As opposed to that of Thomas Jefferson who envisioned the U.S. as being primarily agricultural and therefore virtuous.

ruveyn

* this is priceless
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So I made a typo big deal.

Replace "jest" with "gist."

I'll let you do some digging yourself, but the gist is that Senator McCarthy wasn't as much as a nutcase as the left would like people to believe, and the fact it looks like the John Birch society may have been partially correct in their analysis of what was going on, kinda destroys your argument too.

Don't be so hard on your self it was not a typo, a Freudian slip.
I have read the nightmare decade lets just say McCarthy was not a friend to truth.