Dec 1st, recruiting people for the war on Christmas.

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That's not my point. The fact that 2% of the population can't afford christmas presents for their kids, is no reason to abolish christmas, though. As we all know, the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.

Christmas doesn't bother me even though I don't celebrate it. I'm Jewish. Oy to the voild.

I think it is silly to get your knickers in a knot over what is basically a pleasantry. Being told "Happy holidays" by some store clerk you're never going to know personally is better than being told, "Okay, you spent your money, now get the f**k out," isn't it?

Mamselle: For context, the "War on Christmas" was invented by Christians with too much privilege in their hands and too much of a desire to feel persecuted. They are the ones who flip their s**t when a establishment tells them "Happy Holidays". They truly want to believe it is as an attempt to remove the Christ from Christmas, just like they removed the Saturn out of Saturnalia.

To be fair, they are quite sure of how easy it is to appropriate other people's culture. So maybe that's why they are so afraid of them being next.

http://nation.foxnews.com/2013/11/27/war-christmas

I don't really see why anyone cares either way.

Maybe it is because America is much more Christian than the UK. Quick stats: USA 73% Christian, 6% "other", 20% "none"; England 59% Christian, 9% "other", 32% "none/not stated" (if you factor in the rest of Britain then the religion falls for irreligion, and if you factor in Northern Ireland Christianity rises at the expense of other religions). I know that my "other religion" friends almost universally celebrate Christmas, and we'll wish each other a happy Eid/Diwali even if we don't celebrate it.

I hate to sound like one of the "PC gone mad" group, but it really does seem like both sides are being silly. Christmas is nearly universally celebrated, so assuming that someone celebrates it is fair- there's no need to say "Happy Holidays". Equally, saying "Happy Holidays" does no harm.

US Christianity is also different than UK Christianity. Evangelical Protestantism is the largest single denomination in the US (26 percent of Christians in 2009, slightly larger than Catholicism - according to Pew Research). In comparison, the largest denomination in the UK is the Church of England, which takes a much more moderate stance on a lot of issues (due to the Bloody Mary/Elizabeth incident, I assume).

US Evangelical Christianity rubs a lot of people the wrong way, and a lot of people rub US Evangelical Christianity the wrong way.

GOP has important things to say this Christmas:

https://twitter.com/BWheatnyc/status/40 ... 28/photo/1

Christians stole Christmas from the Pagans. Now the Pagans are stealing it back.

ruveyn

I just bought some Christmas decorations for my door.

I think I'll hang some Christians on my door for the holidays.

Yeah, that's a very good point. Extreme views are more common in the USA (and probably not widely thought of as extreme), and the most extreme Christians (creationist museum, Westboro) are more prominent in the media.

Our Baptists are also a lot more liberal than American Baptists. I think there is some kind of Southern Baptist schism which leads to widespread fundamentalism in the Baptist church in the Bible Belt. I might well have misunderstood that though.

To all the hopes of the best of humanity: Merry Christmas!

The Roman politicians placed it on december 25th since this was already an official day off in Rome. By the time Constantine came to power, the Roman pagan religions were dying out.

Won't that make them cross.

^^^

You're right, it's actually much worse.

The problem here is when non-religous people are going around trying to tell religious people what they should or shouldn't be saying. If you're Christian, then you should be saying Merry Christmas. If you're Muslim, you should say whatever they say for Ramadan. If you're Jewish, you should say Happy Hanukah or whatever they say for that. But why say Happy Holidays? What does that even mean? Does it mean you're going so celebrate all of the different religious holidays that fall around this time of the year? Because if not, I really can't see how it makes any sense.

If you're going to celebrate one of the religious holidays, then stop beating around the bush and just say it by name. And if you're not celebrating any of the religious holidays, then just stop sounding stupid and shut up about the whole thing already.