Why haven't extraterrestrials made their presence known?

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Why haven't aliens made themselves known to us en masse?
They actually have but most people refuse to accept it 25%  25%  [ 20 ]
They think we are not ready for it 5%  5%  [ 4 ]
They think we are cruel/violent and don't deserve to know 9%  9%  [ 7 ]
They have a reason not to disclose that is unclear 6%  6%  [ 5 ]
Aliens have never visited Earth silly 56%  56%  [ 45 ]
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07 Oct 2012, 12:12 pm

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Very neat idea, but it will never work. The wormhole is really the only option and the way to stabilize them is using angular momentum.


With what? An angular momentum stabilizer that runs on unobtanium or nosuchthingium?

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A Kerr black hole is a essentially a space-time tube whose boundary is maintained by a ring shaped singularity. And FYI such an object has been found: Sagittarius A*. I actually saw an article in the last year that astronomers have finally succeeded in imaging its event horizon, confirming that this object is indeed a black hole and the heart of it is a massive hole in space-time 11 million miles wide. 8) What prevents Sagittarius A* from collapsing to a true singularity is its angular momentum. I have mentioned this in more than one thread you posted in. Despite theoretical predictions that Kerr black holes are too unstable to exist, the observational evidence suggests that objects with such properties really do exist. Schwarzschild black holes however, are theorized to exist and there are several objects believed to be Schwarzschild black holes, but the problem is that this has not yet been confirmed since astronomers have yet to observe an event horizon on such an object(which means that such objects may be compact neutron stars).


How do you propose we get to it? By using another "stable" black hole nearer to us.

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08 Oct 2012, 8:24 am

My grandma is 76 and she uses the Internet all the time. I think people born in the 30's are a lot more modern than people born in the 20's.



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08 Oct 2012, 8:29 am

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My grandma is 76 and she uses the Internet all the time. I think people born in the 30's are a lot more modern than people born in the 20's.


Fo' Sho' - And people born in the 10's are a lot better at playing dead.



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08 Oct 2012, 10:33 am

I think that we've not contacted extraterrestrials yet because the odds of it happening are really low.

We're probably not alone in the Universe. I would say that life is probably pretty common in the Universe, relatively speaking. Intelligent life would be rarer, though. For one thing, intelligence itself may not happen all that often. It requires a very specific evolutionary path to make an organism physically capable of intelligent behavior. Beyond that, alien intelligence might be, well, alien. It may not look like our intelligence at all, and they may or may not actually care about space travel.

In the case that a species with an intelligence similar enough to our own to care about space travel does evolve, it may not survive for that long, or its technological growth may flatten out at some point. It's unlikely that we would pick up random radio signals travelling across the gulf of space, and species like our own eventually shrink their radio profile, anyway. Assuming that they don't ever develop interstellar travel, they would never contact us physically. Interstellar travel is probably incredibly rare if it happens at all. The speed of light is an absolute maximum speed, and something that you can only reach with massless particles. Maybe there are ways to be sneaky and get around that (like the creation of a stable wormhole), but the odds that a species will attain them are probably very low. Even then, those means of transport probably remain extremely rare. Most interstellar species would probably never build an interstellar empire like you see in science fiction. They probably remain small-scale enough to be susceptible to factors which can cause extinction, too.

Those are the realistic reasons why we haven't encountered anyone else. I will say, though, that I'm really fascinated by another. That's the idea that the first species to get the ability for interstellar travel might purposefully wipe out others. Works really well for science fiction, although I highly doubt that it's the real reason.



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22 Oct 2012, 8:53 pm

If we expect most extraterrestrials to be carbon-based life forms, we might miss them.

IMO, the most visible of all extraterrestrials are the plasmatic orbs. :)


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22 Oct 2012, 11:46 pm

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There are so many reports of people being abducted and contacted, as well as confessions from high places, that it seems like we are being visited, even though we don't have a spaceship or body to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt.


Funny, isn't it? All these supposed sightings and not one shred of physical proof. How many people have seen bigfoot or ghosts? Or talk to God?

Number of UFO sightings that have turned out be hoaxes, misidentification, or other types of stupidity: thousands, perhaps millions

Number of UFO sightings that have turned out to be aliens: absolute zero.

That's really all that needs to be said on the subject.


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23 Oct 2012, 12:29 am

nominalist wrote:
If we expect most extraterrestrials to be carbon-based life forms, we might miss them.

IMO, the most visible of all extraterrestrials are the plasmatic orbs. :)


what are 'plasmatic orbs'?

(sounds like a rock band)



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23 Oct 2012, 12:41 am

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what are 'plasmatic orbs'?


lol. I write about them in the Transterrestrials chapter of my Unific Evolution book. Here is a video of an alleged orb over the dome of the rock:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTQVtyh4XkI

The regular YouTube embed tag no longer works for most videos on WrongPlanet (since YouTube moved to HTTPS).


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23 Oct 2012, 8:29 pm

nominalist wrote:
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what are 'plasmatic orbs'?


lol. I write about them in the Transterrestrials chapter of my Unific Evolution book. Here is a video of an alleged orb over the dome of the rock:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTQVtyh4XkI

The regular YouTube embed tag no longer works for most videos on WrongPlanet (since YouTube moved to HTTPS).


Well... in essence you're saying that the lights in the sky that folks see (the ufos,saucers) are not vehicles driven by alien astronauts. That the saucers themselves are living organisms-living blobs of biolumescent gas flying around. Is that what you're saying?



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24 Oct 2012, 7:31 pm

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Well... in essence you're saying that the lights in the sky that folks see (the ufos,saucers) are not vehicles driven by alien astronauts. That the saucers themselves are living organisms-living blobs of biolumescent gas flying around. Is that what you're saying?


Not the saucers, the orbs. I assume that the saucers might be spacecraft.


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24 Oct 2012, 7:38 pm

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24 Oct 2012, 8:18 pm

nominalist wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
Well... in essence you're saying that the lights in the sky that folks see (the ufos,saucers) are not vehicles driven by alien astronauts. That the saucers themselves are living organisms-living blobs of biolumescent gas flying around. Is that what you're saying?


Not the saucers, the orbs. I assume that the saucers might be spacecraft.


didnt know that there was a difference between orbs and saucers.



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24 Oct 2012, 8:32 pm

naturalplastic wrote:
nominalist wrote:
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Well... in essence you're saying that the lights in the sky that folks see (the ufos,saucers) are not vehicles driven by alien astronauts. That the saucers themselves are living organisms-living blobs of biolumescent gas flying around. Is that what you're saying?


Not the saucers, the orbs. I assume that the saucers might be spacecraft.


didnt know that there was a difference between orbs and saucers.


Depends on whether you like your joint laced or not.


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24 Oct 2012, 9:09 pm

Guys, guys! There may be extra terrestrials, but none of them have been here lately.

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24 Oct 2012, 9:14 pm

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Guys, guys! There may be extra terrestrials, but none of them have been here lately.

... if ever.



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24 Oct 2012, 9:21 pm

naturalplastic wrote:
didnt know that there was a difference between orbs and saucers.


I have numerous alleged photographs of each of them in that chapter. Orbs are spherical, not flat.


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