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23 Feb 2012, 7:24 pm

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Worker's World says that they have all the answers
And Milosevic is a guy that they admire
The ISO says Trotsky is the man
And they'll debate it until they all expire
The industrial workers will lead the revolution
So claims the SWP
No, the truth lies among the lumpen;
That's the RCP

The Sparts say the rest can go to hell
And everyone else is a Stalinist
The CP will just do their thing
And pretend the others don't exist
Well I had a realization this morning
When I looked into the red and dawning sun
I've figured out the truth
And I'm forming a party of one

I am the leader of the workers
And I'll tell you why the Left is suspect
Because there's something you don't understand
Only my line is correct
'Cause I am the vanguard of the masses
And all of you should just follow me
If you doubt my analysis
You must be in the petty bourgeoisie

But I am not sectarian
It's all the rest who are
I work fine in coalitions
As long as I'm the shining star
So bow down to your master
The lastest V.I. Lenin
And off to the camps to all of you
Who'd say, "not this again"

I am the leader of the workers
And I'll tell you why the Left is suspect
Because there's something you don't understand
Only my line is correct
'Cause I am the vanguard of the masses
And all of you should just follow me
If you doubt my analysis
You must be in the petty bourgeoisie

And I'll have no music at my protests
And none of that goddamn puppetry
I'll just have some somber slogans
No decadent frivolity
My chants will be the right ones
Just the ones that should be said
And my banners we'll wave proudly
Just the proper shade of red

And I will build the party if it kills me
I am solely dedicated to the cause
If I have to stab you in the back
This won't give me pause
'Cause my platform will take us forward
And the ends always justify the means
And you must step aside behind me
Be you Quakers, Jews, anarchists or greens

I am the leader of the workers
And I'll tell you why the Left is suspect
Because there's something you don't understand
Only my line is correct
'Cause I am the vanguard of the masses
And all of you should just follow me
If you doubt my analysis
You must be in the petty bourgeoisie

Wow that is poignant. And not just for Marxist-Leninists, but for a huge portion of the radical left.

so when you say you're a socialist you dont mean marxist lenninist? i am, i just a have a weird sense of humour so i posted both sides. he makes it out as if marxist lenninists form really authoritarian, insular groups with really rigid ways of thinking and an elitist mentality. though there is a little issue with some groups on the left being sectarian but here, for the most part, everybody can at least work together in campaign groups. rovics could appreciate people who were left wing and did something about it which is why he didnt play songs deriding each group to the group the song was about. or so i've been told.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PgxMjmKE0c[/youtube]
not as good as part 1 but i like the fact that it is in 3 languages so i can understand the english, half the arabic and none of the hebrew but it still sounds cool.



23 Feb 2012, 7:37 pm

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23 Feb 2012, 9:31 pm

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so when you say you're a socialist you dont mean marxist lenninist? i am, i just a have a weird sense of humour so i posted both sides. he makes it out as if marxist lenninists form really authoritarian, insular groups with really rigid ways of thinking and an elitist mentality. though there is a little issue with some groups on the left being sectarian but here, for the most part, everybody can at least work together in campaign groups. rovics could appreciate people who were left wing and did something about it which is why he didnt play songs deriding each group to the group the song was about. or so i've been told.

No, I'm not a Marxist-Leninist. In my opinion that is rather out-dated as it doesn't do anything to engage the middle class, which is the backbone of modern capitalist society. I'd be best described as an ecosocialist. I'm somewhat more radical than the Scandinavian parties that subscribe to "Popular Socialism" but I don't believe in revolution or the vanguard party or anything like that. Revolution rarely works. And anyway, calling yourself a Marxist-Leninist will alienate you from most of the population who will associate you with Soviet-style Communism.

The main reason I liked those lyrics is because of the sectarianism I see present in certain parts of the left. I'm thinking of the British left in particular, with it's dozen or so fragmented, fighting and altogether useless parties. But I guess that this thread isn't really the place to debate these things.



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24 Feb 2012, 4:56 am

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24 Feb 2012, 8:53 am

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24 Feb 2012, 10:20 am

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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qt2FWAbXinY&feature=related[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k29JxVCKBBM[/youtube]

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24 Feb 2012, 6:17 pm

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24 Feb 2012, 8:49 pm

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24 Feb 2012, 11:57 pm

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25 Feb 2012, 11:42 am

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25 Feb 2012, 7:58 pm

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25 Feb 2012, 8:07 pm

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26 Feb 2012, 12:55 am

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_nljw2WxRs[/youtube]

A very interestin' trip-hop song.

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26 Feb 2012, 10:32 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQ95z6ywcBY[/youtube]

A lot of people don't bother to look into this, but this song is a metaphor for how the American government works.


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26 Feb 2012, 11:14 pm

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A lot of people don't bother to look into this, but this song is a metaphor for how the American government works.

I don't get it. Care to explain?



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26 Feb 2012, 11:20 pm

AstroGeek wrote:
TeaEarlGreyHot wrote:
A lot of people don't bother to look into this, but this song is a metaphor for how the American government works.

I don't get it. Care to explain?


It's complicated. I'll see if I can find a source for it in a bit.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_zEHR0N8f4[/youtube]


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