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27 Mar 2012, 4:10 am

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If I had belief in god, I would believe in god. I hold no belief in god. It's not a difficult concept...


Your belief is that God doesn't exist. I don't think the object of your belief is about anything but God. Is it about nothing? No, it's about the concept of God. It could be nothing, if you could prove that God is nothing.


Okay, explain to me this:

How can I believe in something that is, to me, a fictional character? How is it that I somehow believe in this bloody f***ing sky zombie psychopath of yours when he doesn't ruddy exist?


Because you were blessed by the concept of God at a time while you were conscious. Believing that God doesn't exist isn't the same as believing God doesn't exist. You do hold a position regarding the existence of God. And that is your belief about God.


cursed probably,

you still think you have a point hwen you say we believe but it is an utterly inane point when you say you dont differentiate belief, thus making a childs belief in him getting candy later equal to divine worship, not realistic, the world holds too amny variables for that to be anything but a bad joke.


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27 Mar 2012, 10:55 am

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Check the bold, and please explain to me how believing that god doesn't exist is not the same as believing that god doesn't exist :roll:


It should say, "Believing that God doesn't exist isn't the same as believing God does exist."

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I suppose I also hold a belief in every single god and mythical creature I've ever heard of...


How could you?



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27 Mar 2012, 10:58 am

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cursed probably,


So I take it you don't belief it was a blessing and that is your non-position?

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you still think you have a point hwen you say we believe but it is an utterly inane point when you say you dont differentiate belief, thus making a childs belief in him getting candy later equal to divine worship, not realistic, the world holds too amny variables for that to be anything but a bad joke.


It's still their belief, no matter how critical your judgement of it is.



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27 Mar 2012, 12:39 pm

snapcap wrote:
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Check the bold, and please explain to me how believing that god doesn't exist is not the same as believing that god doesn't exist :roll:


It should say, "Believing that God doesn't exist isn't the same as believing God does exist."

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I suppose I also hold a belief in every single god and mythical creature I've ever heard of...


How could you?


I've heard of them. I've been exposed to the idea. According to you, that means I believe in every one of them. So do you, actually.


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27 Mar 2012, 12:46 pm

I think the Atheist position regarding God should be "I don't know what you are talking about".



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27 Mar 2012, 1:35 pm

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Check the bold, and please explain to me how believing that god doesn't exist is not the same as believing that god doesn't exist :roll:


It should say, "Believing that God doesn't exist isn't the same as believing God does exist."

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I suppose I also hold a belief in every single god and mythical creature I've ever heard of...


How could you?


I've heard of them. I've been exposed to the idea. According to you, that means I believe in every one of them. So do you, actually.


BINGO LOL



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27 Mar 2012, 2:30 pm

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27 Mar 2012, 2:50 pm

Again, everybody has a belief regarding the existence of God. If you've heard of the concept, you have a belief.



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28 Mar 2012, 1:17 pm

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Again, everybody has a belief regarding the existence of God. If you've heard of the concept, you have a belief.


Exactly.



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28 Mar 2012, 4:04 pm

I will say this atheists make good scientists.



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28 Mar 2012, 4:06 pm

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Again, everybody has a belief regarding the existence of God. If you've heard of the concept, you have a belief.


I am a Tarvuist


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28 Mar 2012, 4:11 pm

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Again, everybody has a belief regarding the existence of God. If you've heard of the concept, you have a belief.


still just as inane when one does not differentiate belief.


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28 Mar 2012, 4:13 pm

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Again, everybody has a belief regarding the existence of God. If you've heard of the concept, you have a belief.


still just as inane when one does not differentiate belief.


Tarvu is everything and nothing. Tarvu is all encompassing, and all non-encompassing. When Tarvu speaks to me, I listen. I mean... how could you not?


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28 Mar 2012, 4:13 pm

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Again, everybody has a belief regarding the existence of God. If you've heard of the concept, you have a belief.


still just as inane when one does not differentiate belief.


Hmm athesits get real upset when you tell them that athesim is a belief in not believing in God at least my friend who is a atheists will admit it is his Belief yet other athesits take offence :scratch:



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28 Mar 2012, 4:20 pm

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Again, everybody has a belief regarding the existence of God. If you've heard of the concept, you have a belief.


still just as inane when one does not differentiate belief.


Hmm athesits get real upset when you tell them that athesim is a belief in not believing in God at least my friend who is a atheists will admit it is his Belief yet other athesits take offence :scratch:

it has nothing to do with taking offense,
it has to do with people fixing opinions on you that you do not hold in the way they describe,

which is why i insist that the above premise is inane.

it is quite clear that there are different kinds of belief in different context with wildly differing justification and argumentation behind them, to equate them is dishonest especially when used to deliberately confuse between them.


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28 Mar 2012, 4:24 pm

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Again, everybody has a belief regarding the existence of God. If you've heard of the concept, you have a belief.


still just as inane when one does not differentiate belief.


Hmm athesits get real upset when you tell them that athesim is a belief in not believing in God at least my friend who is a atheists will admit it is his Belief yet other athesits take offence :scratch:

it has nothing to do with taking offense,
it has to do with people fixing opinions on you that you do not hold in the way they describe,

which is why i insist that the above premise is inane.

it is quite clear that there are different kinds of belief in different context with wildly differing justification and argumentation behind them, to equate them is dishonest especially when used to deliberately confuse between them.


Thats the way I see it when people think that about me since I follow Gothic Christianity though I go to a methodist church.

And that I am politically a fasicst yet people say that contridicts my religion when they do not understand that when it comes to politics my religion doesnt play a role in it at all but thank you for giving me a answer and not a attack but you dont do that any way so where good.