14 dead and 50 injured in mass shooting in Colorado.

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You could be considered richer than some. Based on the evidence I have seen so far, the guy is a spoiled rich kid who grew up privileged and cannot deal with the challenges of life outside his community in California. He did fine while he was there but as soon as he was placed in a different location where he didn't know anyone and he had to adjust to a completely new program, he struggled, looks like, and decided to withdraw. He could have been planning on going back to California and maybe go to college there. But, it sounds like he had the idea his life was over and he planned this act of terrorism as his way of coping, ending with his death except that part of the plan did not happen.

And, obviously, he absolutely hates Colorado.

I have decided I won't be seeing the movie. Oh well.

Perhaps I'm more frugal and plan ahead. But not rich by any means. Certainly not extravagant.

Don't get me wrong, I know this guy is guilty and wrong for what he did. But just speculating and saying unconfirmed accusations is not acceptable. He was obviously a troubled young man and my heart goes out to his parents. This cannot be easy for them to read about unconfirmed accusations. How horrible that must be for them.

It sorta reminds me of ignorant parents that don't know much about Asperger's or kids on the spectrum. And all the mean and incorrect accusations they say.

There is nothing I have typed here that is worse than what he himself has done to his parents and I am sure they are not reading online stuff. Probably in deep mourning right now and cannot handle doing much of anything.

Perhaps.

You don't know the true facts about this incident. So speculating doesn't make you any different than the ignorant parents that don't know much about Asperger's or kids on the spectrum.

Just think about that......

Last edited by picklejah on 21 Jul 2012, 6:24 pm, edited 2 times in total.

It's apples and oranges. This has got nothing to do with kids on the spectrum or people with Asperger's yet it keeps coming up again and again. This is a guy who could be called a terrorist who committed a crime.

The guy had a choice of what to do with whatever circumstances he was dealing with. He had the choice of choosing super hero or super villain. He chose super villain. People have a breaking point. But he chose super villain over super hero. I don't see any point in asking him why he chose evil over good.

You're not understanding me. I'm talking about making accusations without knowing the TRUE FACTS.

You have a point, I am going by what's in the media but I assume they are accurate, sometimes. They showed a picture of the house he grew up in and I took it for granted, it must be the house but they could be mistaken. They have been mistaken before.

And the media will do anything for a hype .....
The are incorrect the MAJORITY of the time. LOL!
Just remember that about ANYTHING you may read from the media.
They will do anything for a story.

The only one with the facts right now is James Holmes.

The truth will come out in time. But until then, everything is pure speculation.

It's also interesting to see how this gets much more attention than any other massacres.
I've hardly heard anything about Syria today or yesterday because they were all talking about this.

I also hate the demonization of people with mental issues/troubles that comes out of these incidents. Though I wouldn't be so quick to say this guy wasn't a loner. Posting ads online could be just as much an effort to compensate for being socially isolated, as it could be evidence for not being isolated. I know that for myself, and a lot of people on here, we come online when finding IRL friends or dates is depressingly difficult. This girl I know who regularly complains about not having a group of friends was, at least at one time, probably the most obsessed with online chat sites of anyone I've ever known.

What gets me, though, is that nobody is "blaming" his (possible) social marginalization, or the possibility that his isolation could have gotten in the way of his professional life, for what happened. It's not that this should excuse what he did, but it's also not that people are reluctant to blame anything other than his personal responsibility. They are happy to do so in so many other ways, including blaming gun laws, poor parenting, etc.

It's just in the case of social setbacks, people just assume that if he was isolated, it was either his own doing, or he should have been able to deal with it. Possibly if there had been some sort of support structure in his life for people like him, this situation would have turned out better for all concerned. One could potentially fault his family to some degree, because it seems they are wealthy enough they could have provided this, but maybe they didn't take his difficulties seriously? Many people on these forums say that their families don't "get" how life is for them.

No he is a sociopath. I highly doubt he has even the slightest morsel of remorse whatsoever. Mentally ill people don't do this. People in isolation don't do this. It just doesn't happen. There is such a thing as misplaced empathy. This man deserves not the slightest shred of compassion.

The fact that he never had any arrests before this event just means he was probably an intellectual narcissist. When his intelligence proved useless, he systematically and deliberately devised a plot to gain infamy. The more I watch about it, the more painfully obvious it becomes.

There are lots of people in this world who hate themselves who have no desire to harm others. There are lots of people with homicidal who are ashamed of them and get help for it. Holmes is not this kind of person.

Thank you. My mother just told me that she thought of me when she heard Holmes was studying Neuroscience and that he was a loner. She said something like "I worry. You shouldn't be so isolated and sit in front of your computer all day. I don't think you're going to shoot anyone, but being alone isn't good. Look what it did to him." She's just concerned, but I think it's a little bit ridiculous.

I think that his degree of forward planning makes it very clear that he was able to keep focus on his vile plan. I think that his behaviour does not look like that of a person who has lost their grip on reality. I also think that the crime does not look like the actions of a person who is psychotic, I know that some psychotics have the mistaken idea in their head that they are under threat from some person (persecutory delusions). They might think that the newspaper delivery man is a gunman who has been sent to get them, I can imagine a person in such a messed up state that they might have tried to harm a specific group but shooting up a cinema looks too random to me.

Also I can understand (but do not approve) of a person seeking revenge, but again it is too random an attack.



I agree, it does look like rather than using his ability in some positive way he choose to use them in a very negative way. I think as he had free will, he needs to suffer the consequences of his actions. While those of us who choose to do the right thing enjoy the consequences of our actions he needs to face the consequences of his deeds. As an alternative to the death sentance we need to consider some irksome task which is sisyphean.

I think that a good one would be to make him break concrete blocks into small bits with a large hammer then make him glue the whole lot together with a fast setting cement to make a new block which he then has to smash again.

An alternative would be to give him 10000 coloured pellets of ABS plastic (10 colours), make him sort them into 10 jars. Then remix the pellets and let him start again.

Another one would be to give him a spade and a wheelbarrow and get him to move several tons of sand from one side of a large room to the other side, then he has to move the sand back the other way.

He acted cool and calm as he committed his shooting rampage. The gunman does not appear to have a mental illness. Hopefully a quick, speedy court trial will find him guilty and he will either be sentenced to life in prison or face the death penalty. In China or one of those Arab Muslim nations he would have been swiftly dealt with and executed.