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24 Aug 2012, 2:28 pm

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I can live with that! :lol:

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Of course you can. But are you willing to endorse Panda's larger thesis that low functioning autistics are unintelligent?


Was it not obvious that I was just being funny?

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24 Aug 2012, 2:30 pm

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Just about everything seems to confirm that Conservatives are less intelligent than Liberals.


I and my 140 IQ have been anti-pinko stinko commie loving liberal proto-fascist statist for over 45 years.

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But you used to be a commie so you don't count.


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24 Aug 2012, 2:30 pm

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Was it not obvious that I was just being funny?

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


In a forum for autistics nothing is "obvious" and just about everything is taken literally.

Consider the audience.

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24 Aug 2012, 2:35 pm

ruveyn wrote:
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Was it not obvious that I was just being funny?

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


In a forum for autistics nothing is "obvious" and just about everything is taken literally.

Consider the audience.

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I know, I know. I've taken things way too literally on WP in my time, as well.

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24 Aug 2012, 4:15 pm

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I am one Aspie who despises collectivism and statism on general principles. Almost every tyranny that ever was puts the State, Government or Sovereign first and individuals last.

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Most things in the universe require some form of collectivism. Or else multi-cell organisms and sentient life would never have evolved. A society of purely lone-wolf individuals would be as primitive and chaotic as a colony of single celled organisms.



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24 Aug 2012, 4:21 pm

Unless you are farming your own plot and roughing it, you are a collectivist. That's how civilization operates. We are not tigers.



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24 Aug 2012, 4:36 pm

Let's face it - the individual is more often than not helpless and impotent. Regardless of conservatives bragging about their rugged individualism, the fact of the matter is, without society to exist, they would soon die. Even the mountain men of old needed stores to buy their supplies from, and a rendezvous to meet other mountain men in order to conduct business.

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24 Aug 2012, 6:01 pm

JakobVirgil wrote:
Dox47 wrote:
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I can live with that! :lol:

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Of course you can. But are you willing to endorse Panda's larger thesis that low functioning autistics are unintelligent?


I think you are assigning beliefs to ArrantPariah <-- does anyone not know that is Panda?
I think he just meant Conservatives are stupid. <--- this is also rude.


Read back through the thread; he very clearly has stated that conservative aspies are likely LFA, and that conservatives are stupid. No need for me to assign anything.


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24 Aug 2012, 6:16 pm

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Let's face it - the individual is more often than not helpless and impotent. Regardless of conservatives bragging about their rugged individualism, the fact of the matter is, without society to exist, they would soon die. Even the mountain men of old needed stores to buy their supplies from, and a rendezvous to meet other mountain men in order to conduct business.

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24 Aug 2012, 7:51 pm

Speaking of myself politicly, I've gone through various stages, as I've matured personally, and gained perspective based upon my life experiences. When I first became interested in politics, at the tender age of about 11, I thought that I was a conservative, when in reality I just tended to resent authority in general. And then after alternating between Communism, and right-libertarianism, I've finally settled upon the left, broadly speaking. I seem to favor social democracy, pragmaticly, and left-libertarianism, idealisticly. I also support the ideas of eco-socialism, and identify with the Green Party. In my opinion, autists tend towards libertarianism, due to our love of personal pursuits, and personal freedom, and on the other hand, towards socialism, because of our love of order, and personal security. So I feel that generally speaking, libertarian socialism is a synthesis of these counter balanced sentiments. But I've met a number of Communists, on this one message board I frequent, whom turned out to be aspies.



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24 Aug 2012, 10:45 pm

I'm mostly lefty-liberal -- pro-choice, pro-environment, pro-arts, etc. There are a few issues on which I go a little more right. I'm cool with the death penalty, wearing fur, eating meat, and guns. I've been known to vote Dem on most cases, but throw in a couple of GOP on the criminal courts. I think when a person commits a felony, s/he should be punished. Rehab can and should be provided, but being locked up is about punishment. You do the crime, you do the time. I've often considered the possibility of bringing back public floggings for misdemeanor offences. Maybe do it once a week, like a Wednesday lunchtime. I think the double-whammy of the pain and fear of the flogging and the humilation endured by that happening in front of a bunch of people would be enough to change at least some peoples' way.



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24 Aug 2012, 11:30 pm

I'm liberal, but not super left-y. Politically speaking, I budded too early. From ages 13 to 15, I adored debates and was fascinated by politics. I was even in a Youth in Government group, governed by Robert's Rules of Order. But in the end I decided that in politics, there was simply too much blathering of people who don't know what they are talking about. And that gets old, from both sides.



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24 Aug 2012, 11:33 pm

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I'm mostly lefty-liberal -- pro-choice, pro-environment, pro-arts, etc. There are a few issues on which I go a little more right. I'm cool with the death penalty, wearing fur, eating meat, and guns. I've been known to vote Dem on most cases, but throw in a couple of GOP on the criminal courts. I think when a person commits a felony, s/he should be punished. Rehab can and should be provided, but being locked up is about punishment. You do the crime, you do the time. I've often considered the possibility of bringing back public floggings for misdemeanor offences. Maybe do it once a week, like a Wednesday lunchtime. I think the double-whammy of the pain and fear of the flogging and the humilation endured by that happening in front of a bunch of people would be enough to change at least some peoples' way.
Sounds a lot like me back then, though I was sort of far left economically. Not that it's a bad thing, but I hardly ever come across lefties like this so I used to think I was all alone. Good to know there's liberals of your brand out there :wtg:.



25 Aug 2012, 12:18 am

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Just about everything seems to confirm that Conservatives are less intelligent than Liberals.


I and my 140 IQ have been anti pinko stinko commie loving liberal proto-fascist statist for over 45 years.

ruveyn


I assume the italicized text is a joke, right? Because "them pinko stinko commie luvin libs" are statist but cleary anti-fascist FYI.



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25 Aug 2012, 5:08 am

Socialist, and have been as long as ever considered that sort of thing. I remember ranting at my mother how the bus service would be better if it weren't private, aged 12. Though I moved to a more liberal-left position under the influence of my then-conservative wife, I've moved back to the left and brought her some of the way with me.

I think being possibly you could equate being a reactionary to a certain sort of anti-intellectualism. I have a lot of time for proper conservatives. Don't tend to get on with right-libertarians. A 'proper' conservative to me is who's left when you take out the reactionaries and libertarians. And by 'take out', I don't mean shooting. The gulag will do fine. :twisted:



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25 Aug 2012, 10:27 am

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ArrantPariah wrote:

Just about everything seems to confirm that Conservatives are less intelligent than Liberals.


I and my 140 IQ have been anti pinko stinko commie loving liberal proto-fascist statist for over 45 years.

ruveyn


I assume the italicized text is a joke, right? Because "them pinko stinko commie luvin libs" are statist but cleary anti-fascist FYI.


Proto-Fascist = State/Government first, individual last.

This can exist on both the right and the left.

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