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18 Feb 2015, 5:03 am

All women are like this online esspecially if they were the majority online!


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18 Feb 2015, 5:13 am

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18 Feb 2015, 12:37 pm

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I get that you consider it part of the problem, but in the context of forum for people with social deficits, it is hard to understand. I think it is probably more enjoyable to be a person who people want to talk to instead of a person who nobody wants to talk to. So in a forum that seems to have a decent number of frustrated, lonely people who have never had or never will be in relationships, you seem to be complaining about a situation that many people would love to experience.

Also, If you have a problem with people who do not read social cues well, I'm sorry that situations when you have to deal with them "suck", but it also sucks when you want to talk to someone but can't figure out how to do it in a way that is acceptable to neurotypicals or whoever you are talking to. I feel like you are assuming that everyone should be able to read your body language and stay away from you when you give off a certain vibe, but maybe your social observation skills are superior to the skills of people you find so intrusive.


No. You are making a lot of assumptions about ME here, yet giving me crap for supposedly making assumptions about the people here. I am not making assumptions about the people here. I am making assumptions about the every day person. The every day person who has average social skills.


Please note that I qualify my assumptions with "I feel like" and "maybe", so I'm offering you an opportunity to clarify your position. I am just responding to your text, not making assumptions about who you are.

I don't really know what you mean by "every day person" though, some every day people are autistic, some are narcissistic, some have high confidence and libido, some are as*holes, some are stupid, etc. There are lots of factors that influence why a person would say hello to someone who is not giving any invitation to do so.

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Contrary to what you may think? I don't read people well. Most women do not like me. I piss people off. A lot of people like to talk to me, and no I don't have problems going on dates- but, and I'm sure you read my last post so you are drawing LOTS AND LOTS OF CONCLUSIONS FROM THAT you will also note that there is one person who I have mostly dated successfully for the last decade. That person is also autistic.

I have learned a bunch of tricks to help me get by. You want to actually figure out how I REALLY function in society instead of trying to make it like i have no idea what it's like to not fit in, to feel awkward all the time, to feel alienated and not understand if someone just made a joke and if they did are you supposed to laugh at them or turn and laugh at the thing they are looking at or maybe they are laughing at your expense or maybe it's not a joke? maybe ask. Maybe pay attention to why I'm here. Check out my blog. OR ANYTHING I HAVE WRITTEN ABOUT BEING AUTISTIC.


Yeah, I'm autistic too, so I have a good idea of what it's like. But I feel it is somewhat egotistical of you to want me to learn everything about you before responding to a post in a forum. I am just responding to text, if you have any more expectations of how you want me to engage with your text I'm sorry to disappoint you.

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And oh, i'm not supposed to actually tell people they are in my space because then I'm a b*tch. And if I'm nice, then I lead people on right? And if i LET people buy me drinks, it's OBVIOUSLY a guarantee that I want them to sleep with me and I will clearly jump in their car to do so, and if I don't let them i have no interest in talking to anyone.


I think you are making a lot of assumptions here about how people perceive you, but maybe those assumptions aren't accurate.

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I'm also afraid of people a LOT because of all of these things. I don't like people intruding on my space, and I don't like that people assume it's ok to lay down rules about when we are going to interact but I have no say in it.

My point about the other post was that, despite the fact that I am not 'typically hot', I still manage to date and be percieved as attractive because of my interactions and how I present myself WHEN I AM COMFORTABLE.

People randomly hitting on me, groping me, pushing me against walls has nothing to do with how I present myself. It has to do with the fact that I have boobs and I can't do anything about that. I don't think anyone here wants their ass grabbed randomly or wants to be harrassed or have to walk through the afterwork gauntlet- which is what you are suggesting- and that is FLAT OUT WRONG.


I never suggested that, you are wrong. The issue I was addressing was not physical harassment, but when people say hello to you when you are giving off body language that suggests that you don't want to be talked to.

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So, while I appreciate your attempt at ingenuity, taking my other post COMPLETELY OUT OF CONTEXT and trying to work an angle with it, you actually know so little about me it is positively shameful.

Supergreat.


I just come here to respond to text I find stimulating, I don't think it's a requirement to get to know the people who write the text to respond to it. If you are trying to make me feel bad about what I wrote by saying what I did is "shameful", it didn't work.



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18 Feb 2015, 12:41 pm

SignOfLazarus wrote:
And this:
"Yes, it turns out people are people aren't very nice. They pursue their personal goals without caring about how their actions might negatively impact others. "

Is perfectly appropriate for what you just did, by the way.


What did I do that negatively impacted others?



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18 Feb 2015, 12:53 pm

The implication that you need to have a certain level of social skills in order to introduce yourself to someone bothers me, because it follows that people who are autistic should not attempt to initiate social interactions.



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18 Feb 2015, 1:20 pm

Its so stupid of a male to do this to any female who quite literally wants to be left alone.

Its as if they want to validate their little 5-inch wee wee "manhood" by "nailing" a "b***h."

And if that man cannot get her, for them, no one can.

I have been sexually harassed and molested because of such males in my younger years. Now I know why.

Some men are just such babies and need confirmation that they are indeed "men" by sexual activity with a female.

I guess our young boys have been conditioned this way among these Western civilizations.

How dare many men think of all women as his property or sexual object or tool of submission?!

When a woman says, "no," she means it goddammit!

What the f**k s wrong with guys who actually believe that farce that like 90% of women want to actually get raped. That is the stupidest s**t I have ever heard! No wonder I find it hard to believe that being genius is an extreme male mind. :|


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18 Feb 2015, 6:08 pm

LOL...Even if I had a five-inch wee wee (which I don't), I still know how to make excellent use of it!

It's easy to make six inches feel like eight.



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18 Feb 2015, 6:50 pm

12 pages and no one posted this?
This says it all: :P


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20 Feb 2015, 12:02 pm

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12 pages and no one posted this?
This says it all: :P



The fact the people conflate statements like "how are you this morning" and "have a nice evening" with harassment is what is so confusing.



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20 Feb 2015, 9:54 pm

jwfess wrote:
Narrator wrote:
12 pages and no one posted this?
This says it all: :P

The fact the people conflate statements like "how are you this morning" and "have a nice evening" with harassment is what is so confusing.

Imagine anyone other than a pretty girl walking through the city and how many greetings like that they would get - few if any. Then there are those willing to take it a step further, almost demanding a reply, or walking beside her, trying to guilt her into replying, "You won't talk to me coz I'm ugly." Such overtures would make all approaches annoying.

For some, just to have a pretty girl say "Hi" is enough. But others hope or even expect the possibility of more. I imagine it could be like a mine field for a pretty girl. So, on one hand, just a greeting isn't harassment, but the frequency of them and the potential of unwanted attention would be a concern for some. Some people have the personality to handle it, others don't. My own daughter hates going out in public in part because she struggles with handling unwanted attention.


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20 Feb 2015, 10:46 pm

Narrator wrote:
jwfess wrote:
Narrator wrote:
12 pages and no one posted this?
This says it all: :P

The fact the people conflate statements like "how are you this morning" and "have a nice evening" with harassment is what is so confusing.

Imagine anyone other than a pretty girl walking through the city and how many greetings like that they would get - few if any. Then there are those willing to take it a step further, almost demanding a reply, or walking beside her, trying to guilt her into replying, "You won't talk to me coz I'm ugly." Such overtures would make all approaches annoying.

For some, just to have a pretty girl say "Hi" is enough. But others hope or even expect the possibility of more. I imagine it could be like a mine field for a pretty girl. So, on one hand, just a greeting isn't harassment, but the frequency of them and the potential of unwanted attention would be a concern for some. Some people have the personality to handle it, others don't. My own daughter hates going out in public in part because she struggles with handling unwanted attention.


I suppose that religious fundamentalist indoctrinated cultures that are smaller than higher density urban ones without that intense religious fundamentalist indoctrination have their advantage, as this rarely to never happens where I live, AND I am out in the general public watching everything for hours almost everyday.

To be clear it happens at the bar where I go to dance, but that's to be expected when alcohol, young folks, and a place to find mates is part of that mix.

The area where I live is not a good place to have a sexual orientation that is out of the norm, still, or even be black, still, but as far as being female, it is a great place to get respect almost all the time, out in the general public.

My wife has been rated gorgeous by many respected resources, for literally decades, and she never ever receives any crap like this, as in my area when women get disrespected in anyway like this, men stand up for their honor, as that is part of the fundamentalist patriarchal religious way, and it definitely has 'its' advantage for 'that', at least where I live, and I'm sure in many similar areas across the country..... per rural red state 'fundie' areas....

And when folks say hello or good evening, it ain't with 'THAT' TONE OF VOICE OF THE 'PREDATOR' AT LARGE.....

BIG CITIES can BE COLD places in more ways than one.....

Humans are simply not evolved to live in big cities, over around 150 to 200 sets of social eyes, as their pro-social emotions tend to shut down, and they get all whacky, per connecting to others in respectful ways....

Reminds me of the Pink Floyd album 'Animals'; however, animals can usually fight back....win or not....

But 'they' usually don't live in BIG cities, of 'dogs' at least.....

THERE IS a solution, perhaps not realistic but one that would work for that young lady, IF SHE COULD DO IT, to cure this problem in an instant.

And that is to simply move away, from a place humans are NOT CLASSICALLY EVOLVED TO LIVE.

I'M smart enough NOT TO move to a big city, and I can truly leave my doors unlocked without a real statistical worry, as no one has been robbed in my neighborhood for literally decades, knock on brick, says the 'big bad wolf'..;)


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