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18 Jul 2016, 5:22 pm

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It is indoctrination if they teach it as absolute fact. They're teaching things such as patriarchy, rape culture, the wage gap, microagressions etc. These kinds of things are not academic, they are unfounded beliefs.

Some social justice programs are just fine, but more and more are becoming infected with SJW ideology.


Well we have been a Patriarchy for most of our modern history. It's only been recent that we've really started to move away from that in a large way. Some remnants of the more toxic aspects of that still exists in our society. The wage gap has been documented over and over again and these studies have been posted here for your reference. Although you ignored them completely. Microagression is a stupid term I'll admit, but it really just translates to being passive aggressive, usually to a member of a minority group. And when it is an absolute fact, such as the wage gap, most places will teach it as such. Sorry L_Holmes but the facts aren't on your side. No amount of denial will change that.



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18 Jul 2016, 5:24 pm

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I don't feel the need to respond to your strawman, like I said the current situation we find ourselves in speaks for itself as to how correct political correctness and the people who champion it actually are.


It's not a straw man because you don't like it. AspE is right.


show me where I support any of those things

the funny thing is that Hillary actually was for all of them at one time :lol:


The Republicans have the most anti-lgbt platform in history according to log cabin Republicans. It is conservatives that are fighting to lower the capital gains tax which primarily benefits the super wealthy. It is also conservatives that want to drug test people who need government assistance. And it is conservatives that want to destroy the marriages of around one million people. I think those examples speak to AspE's point.

So anyone that opposes social justice in any form, even when it's teaching wrong information, must be a conservative? So does that make me a conservative, even though I'm actually liberal? That's a ridiculous argument you've got there.

SJWs themselves aren't even liberal. They're far more comparable to the religious right at this point than anyone else on the left.


Yeah, that's not what I said.



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18 Jul 2016, 5:28 pm

Lukeda420 wrote:
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Lukeda420 wrote:
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I don't feel the need to respond to your strawman, like I said the current situation we find ourselves in speaks for itself as to how correct political correctness and the people who champion it actually are.


It's not a straw man because you don't like it. AspE is right.


show me where I support any of those things

the funny thing is that Hillary actually was for all of them at one time :lol:


The Republicans have the most anti-lgbt platform in history according to log cabin Republicans. It is conservatives that are fighting to lower the capital gains tax which primarily benefits the super wealthy. It is also conservatives that want to drug test people who need government assistance. And it is conservatives that want to destroy the marriages of around one million people. I think those examples speak to AspE's point.

So anyone that opposes social justice in any form, even when it's teaching wrong information, must be a conservative? So does that make me a conservative, even though I'm actually liberal? That's a ridiculous argument you've got there.

SJWs themselves aren't even liberal. They're far more comparable to the religious right at this point than anyone else on the left.


Yeah, that's not what I said.

So why are you bringing it up then?

I've already shown the problems with the wage gap. There are small discrepancies in some industries, but it's not 77 cents on the dollar. That's simply a lie. And no, we are not in any way a patriarchy.


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18 Jul 2016, 5:29 pm

Jacoby,

Well first of he's running as a Republican with an extremely unfriendly platform and he picked a rabid social conservative Mike Pence to be his running mate. Not much more needs to be said. Also those weren't my words, they were the words of a Republican group. And lastly it was "platform"
not "candidate."

P.S. That's not what a straw man is. Those are the beliefs of Republicans as he said. The "I bet you" part is more just poking you with a sharp stick.



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18 Jul 2016, 5:37 pm

L_Holmes wrote:
Lukeda420 wrote:
L_Holmes wrote:
Lukeda420 wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
Lukeda420 wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
I don't feel the need to respond to your strawman, like I said the current situation we find ourselves in speaks for itself as to how correct political correctness and the people who champion it actually are.


It's not a straw man because you don't like it. AspE is right.


show me where I support any of those things

the funny thing is that Hillary actually was for all of them at one time :lol:


The Republicans have the most anti-lgbt platform in history according to log cabin Republicans. It is conservatives that are fighting to lower the capital gains tax which primarily benefits the super wealthy. It is also conservatives that want to drug test people who need government assistance. And it is conservatives that want to destroy the marriages of around one million people. I think those examples speak to AspE's point.

So anyone that opposes social justice in any form, even when it's teaching wrong information, must be a conservative? So does that make me a conservative, even though I'm actually liberal? That's a ridiculous argument you've got there.

SJWs themselves aren't even liberal. They're far more comparable to the religious right at this point than anyone else on the left.


Yeah, that's not what I said.

So why are you bringing it up then?

I've already shown the problems with the wage gap. There are small discrepancies in some industries, but it's not 77 cents on the dollar. That's simply a lie. And no, we are not in any way a patriarchy.


I'm not the one that brought it up. There us a discrepancy in most industries and when those gaps are averaged together you come up with the 77 number. Do you really expect people to break down the differences in each industry for a speech? The point is that a wage gap does in fact exist and aggregating the numbers just makes the point easier to understand.

And yes there are still remnants of the patriarchy all throughout our system. It's gotten way better of the years, but we're not there yet. I really don't understand why you try so hard to deny these realities.



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18 Jul 2016, 5:41 pm

I'm glad you can clear his intentions up for him :lol:

Trump picked who he had to pick as VP to quell off a challenge at the convention, VP is a mostly powerless position and Trump has made it clear that his views are the ones that matter on this ticket. Remove Trump then you get Pence, think about that when you make that threat in the future. Pence by the way is the guy who changed his mind on the legislation passed in his state in regards to religious freedom, to try to spin this as the most anti-LGBT ticket in history is just completely false and wrong.



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18 Jul 2016, 5:43 pm

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I'm glad you can clear his intentions up for him :lol:

Trump picked who he had to pick as VP to quell off a challenge at the convention, VP is a mostly powerless position and Trump has made it clear that his views are the ones that matter on this ticket. Remove Trump then you get Pence, think about that when you make that threat in the future. Pence by the way is the guy who changed his mind on the legislation passed in his state in regards to religious freedom, to try to spin this as the most anti-LGBT ticket in history is just completely false and wrong.


Wow Trump could spit in your face and you would tell me it's just a little rain. 8O



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18 Jul 2016, 5:48 pm

I've known native New Yorkers who are rednecked to the bone.



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18 Jul 2016, 5:50 pm

Am I suppose to vote for Hillary because Trump didn't choose my preferred pick as VP? Party politics is about horsetrading as much everyone might dislike that, you can't really eject dissenters from the party. I'm just glad it's not Newt Gingrich, I wanted him to choose Lt. General Michael Flynn.



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18 Jul 2016, 5:53 pm

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I've known native New Yorkers who are rednecked to the bone.


Yeah, it's always a mistake to make assumptions about ideology based on geography. Oklahoma is a very conservative state but that doesn't mean there aren't some old hippies living there as well



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18 Jul 2016, 6:00 pm

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Am I suppose to vote for Hillary because Trump didn't choose my preferred pick as VP? Party politics is about horsetrading as much everyone might dislike that, you can't really eject dissenters from the party. I'm just glad it's not Newt Gingrich, I wanted him to choose Lt. General Michael Flynn.


No, just don't be dishonest about the state of things. I've lost faith in your intellectual honesty completely during this whole Trump fiasco. You blatantly disregard any negative tidbit about Trump while trumpeting very loudly every little negative rumor of Hillary and insist that they are irrefutable facts despite the lack of evidence to support them.

You used to be better at this than you have been for the last several months now.



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18 Jul 2016, 6:23 pm

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Am I suppose to vote for Hillary because Trump didn't choose my preferred pick as VP? Party politics is about horsetrading as much everyone might dislike that, you can't really eject dissenters from the party. I'm just glad it's not Newt Gingrich, I wanted him to choose Lt. General Michael Flynn.


No, just don't be dishonest about the state of things. I've lost faith in your intellectual honesty completely during this whole Trump fiasco. You blatantly disregard any negative tidbit about Trump while trumpeting very loudly every little negative rumor of Hillary and insist that they are irrefutable facts despite the lack of evidence to support them.

You used to be better at this than you have been for the last several months now.


There was no amount of accumulated manufactured controversies that were going to turn me off my candidate, nothing could of convinced me to vote for Hillary Clinton especially the dishonest media. I was not a Republican before this primary, I was not four years ago with Ron Paul when he faced many of the same obstacles they tried and failed to destroy Trump with. Trump represents real change and a defeat of the political establishment, he sold me on his message of trade and his extension of the olive branch to Russia which I consider the most important bilateral relationship in the world. The man is not a neocon and he sank the Bush dynasty, calling out people like the loser Bill Kristol for what they actually are is the type of red meat I love. We need Trump to change to path this country find itself on, even if only for 4 years it was worth the try and to stick it to everyone that said you can't. The opportunity won't come again, this is too important of an election to let petty squabbles dictate who I vote for. Hillary Clinton must never become president, that is reason enough to support Trump 10x over.



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18 Jul 2016, 6:31 pm

Jacoby wrote:
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Am I suppose to vote for Hillary because Trump didn't choose my preferred pick as VP? Party politics is about horsetrading as much everyone might dislike that, you can't really eject dissenters from the party. I'm just glad it's not Newt Gingrich, I wanted him to choose Lt. General Michael Flynn.


No, just don't be dishonest about the state of things. I've lost faith in your intellectual honesty completely during this whole Trump fiasco. You blatantly disregard any negative tidbit about Trump while trumpeting very loudly every little negative rumor of Hillary and insist that they are irrefutable facts despite the lack of evidence to support them.

You used to be better at this than you have been for the last several months now.


There was no amount of accumulated manufactured controversies that were going to turn me off my candidate, nothing could of convinced me to vote for Hillary Clinton especially the dishonest media. I was not a Republican before this primary, I was not four years ago with Ron Paul when he faced many of the same obstacles they tried and failed to destroy Trump with. Trump represents real change and a defeat of the political establishment, he sold me on his message of trade and his extension of the olive branch to Russia which I consider the most important bilateral relationship in the world. The man is not a neocon and he sank the Bush dynasty, calling out people like the loser Bill Kristol for what they actually are is the type of red meat I love. We need Trump to change to path this country find itself on, even if only for 4 years it was worth the try and to stick it to everyone that said you can't. The opportunity won't come again, this is too important of an election to let petty squabbles dictate who I vote for. Hillary Clinton must never become president, that is reason enough to support Trump 10x over.


You glossed over what I wrote. I don't expect you to vote for Hillary or not vote for Trump. Just speak for yourself and not like you're a paid representative of his campaign.



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18 Jul 2016, 6:58 pm

I want people to vote for Donald Trump and not for Hillary Clinton, simple as that.



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18 Jul 2016, 7:02 pm

And I don't care for Donald Trump...nor for Hillary, really.

Why can't we bring back Adlai Stevenson, the First Egghead, from the Dead?



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18 Aug 2016, 4:59 pm

SJWs send death threats to 12 year old girl:

http://thefederalist.com/2016/08/18/thi ... urder-her/

This 12-Year-Old Girl Went Hunting, And Now Social Justice Warriors Want To Murder Her

‘Do the world a favor and kill yourself already before someone else makes you disappear.’

AUGUST 18, 2016 By D.C. McAllister

The latest outrage over a 12-year-old girl’s Facebook photos of her hunting expedition in Africa reveals just how hateful social justice warriors can be.

After posting pictures of a dead zebra and giraffe, Aryanna Gourdin from Cove, Utah, received a tidal wave of hateful criticism, including death threats. In response to one picture of Gourdin proudly standing over her kill, one online commenter said, “Literally hope someone skins you.” Another said, “Do the world a favor and kill yourself already before someone else makes you disappear.”


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