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28 Jan 2017, 4:28 am

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progressive stances

:lmao: SJWs don't have progressive stances.


Considering no one can agree on what an SJW is, who are you to say they don't? Pretty much the only thing people can agree on is that they are progressive, meaning the opposite of conservative. That's not a synonym for good, it's just a description of the political stance.
To me an SJW is someone who is typically liberal and left leaning but is extreme in their views to the point whereby they deny any opposing facts and vilify the other side.



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28 Jan 2017, 4:29 am

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On the other hand, I was mistreated at work for being pregnant and sick. That's a real power imbalance; in that situation you are completely dependent on others.
Damn, that sucks :(

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Because neo-cons have the same attitude of good vs. evil, must-enforce-our-views-on-others, the difference is the neo-cons actually have power.
Oh. That makes sense.

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Anyway, if someone can be convicted of rape and not expelled from university, then I don't think the SJWs are any threat.
Is the reverse scenario possible? Expulsion but no conviction?

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PS: Back in my day, SJW was used specifically to refer to people who took up others group's causes despite being unwanted (e. Kony 2012), now it just seems to be blanket applied to anyone with progressive stances the user doesn't like. It's impossible to have a real conversation if no one knows who is ACTUALLY be criticized and for what, all it does is create a circlejerk of hate because SJW is a negative label.
True. I've never heard anyone refer to themselves as an SJW but recently I have heard people say they advocate for "social justice".


Of course the inverse is possible as a university can expel people for countless reasons, but they way university politics works is typically they'd do anything to deny the existence of the rape because a rape on campus makes the university look bad.


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28 Jan 2017, 4:32 am

Shahunshah wrote:
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progressive stances

:lmao: SJWs don't have progressive stances.


Considering no one can agree on what an SJW is, who are you to say they don't? Pretty much the only thing people can agree on is that they are progressive, meaning the opposite of conservative. That's not a synonym for good, it's just a description of the political stance.
To me an SJW is someone who is typically liberal and left leaning but is extreme in their views to the point whereby they deny any opposing facts and vilify the other side.


The facts for now is that homosexuality is not classified as mental illness so who cares if you can convert someone without torture, and it's torture in it's own way because it DOESN'T WORK and thus the attempt at conversion is emotionally damaging. But if someone wants to do conversion therapy of their own well then whose to stop them? But don't go out defending it because people will crucify you for it, the connotation is that bad. If it's really vital for you to talk about it, find some other way to refer to it.


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28 Jan 2017, 4:36 am

Ganondox wrote:
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progressive stances

:lmao: SJWs don't have progressive stances.


Considering no one can agree on what an SJW is, who are you to say they don't? Pretty much the only thing people can agree on is that they are progressive, meaning the opposite of conservative. That's not a synonym for good, it's just a description of the political stance.
To me an SJW is someone who is typically liberal and left leaning but is extreme in their views to the point whereby they deny any opposing facts and vilify the other side.


The facts for now is that homosexuality is not classified as mental illness so who cares if you can convert someone without torture, and it's torture in it's own way because it DOESN'T WORK and thus the attempt at conversion is emotionally damaging. But if someone wants to do conversion therapy of their own well then whose to stop them? But don't go out defending it because people will crucify you for it, the connotation is that bad. If it's really vital for you to talk about it, find some other way to refer to it.

I don't like Conversion therapy. I don't think we should refer to it as torture when it may not be, that implies severe abuse. If we accept the idea of it being torture it may lead us to vilify conservatives who support the policies. Again its bad it is just that may not be on the same level as waterboarding.



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28 Jan 2017, 5:02 am

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I'm sorry, but how are things being shouted at the cop in any way progressive? Some more:

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Being extremely conservative and being extremely SJW look the same to me, maybe I'm just ignorant.



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28 Jan 2017, 5:27 am

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I'm sorry, but how are things being shouted at the cop in any way progressive? Some more:

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Being extremely conservative and being extremely SJW look the same to me, maybe I'm just ignorant.


The writing is so small!


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28 Jan 2017, 5:35 am

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I'm sorry, but how are things being shouted at the cop in any way progressive? Some more:

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Being extremely conservative and being extremely SJW look the same to me, maybe I'm just ignorant.


The writing is so small!

It needs opening in a new tab - you can zoom in on the image link. http://i.imgur.com/FOclNWn.jpg



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28 Jan 2017, 10:20 am

iliketrees wrote:
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I'm sorry, but how are things being shouted at the cop in any way progressive? Some more:

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Being extremely conservative and being extremely SJW look the same to me, maybe I'm just ignorant.

You're definitely not. And the term for 'extreme conservative' that you're looking for is 'Alt-Right'

They are too sides of the same coin.

Except the difference is SJWS actually have influence in politics, whereas most people don't take the other side seriously outside of their cult following.



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28 Jan 2017, 1:23 pm

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And the term for 'extreme conservative' that you're looking for is 'Alt-Right'

Thank you, I knew it had a name but I didn't know what.



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28 Jan 2017, 7:06 pm

Is it just me or are people who hate GMOs and fall for the organic food scam more likely to be SJWs?

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28 Jan 2017, 7:26 pm

I have not noticed, but it makes sense. Not a fan of whole foods, seems like a scam.



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28 Jan 2017, 8:33 pm

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iliketrees wrote:
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I'm sorry, but how are things being shouted at the cop in any way progressive? Some more:

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Being extremely conservative and being extremely SJW look the same to me, maybe I'm just ignorant.

You're definitely not. And the term for 'extreme conservative' that you're looking for is 'Alt-Right'

They are too sides of the same coin.

Except the difference is SJWS actually have influence in politics, whereas most people don't take the other side seriously outside of their cult following.


No. By using the the term alt-right, you are giving them legitimacy. The far-right the proper way to refer to them. The far-right has WAY more influence on politics than the far-left does, though I don't think whatever SJWs are is as much far-left as just lunacy.


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28 Jan 2017, 10:20 pm

Ganondox wrote:
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I'm sorry, but how are things being shouted at the cop in any way progressive? Some more:

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Being extremely conservative and being extremely SJW look the same to me, maybe I'm just ignorant.

You're definitely not. And the term for 'extreme conservative' that you're looking for is 'Alt-Right'

They are too sides of the same coin.

Except the difference is SJWS actually have influence in politics, whereas most people don't take the other side seriously outside of their cult following.


No. By using the the term alt-right, you are giving them legitimacy. The far-right the proper way to refer to them. The far-right has WAY more influence on politics than the far-left does, though I don't think whatever SJWs are is as much far-left as just lunacy.


Please explain.

Just go to any University/College to see how influential the far left are.



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28 Jan 2017, 11:14 pm

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And the term for 'extreme conservative' that you're looking for is 'Alt-Right'


Eh, the term has become pretty corrupted since the mainstream discovered it, but originally it mean exactly what it said, "alternative right", different rather than more or less extreme. I initially encountered it being used to refer to neoreactionaries, an odd little group that believes democracy will always fail and wants some kind of benevolent monarchy/CEO type system, but now it's kind of a catchall term for right wing trolls on the internet.


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29 Jan 2017, 6:48 pm

Could I please get a definition of "SJW"? At the moment it seems to be being used to say "people who say things I don't like", which makes it a fairly meaningless term.



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29 Jan 2017, 6:52 pm

SJW originally started as an insult. I personally consider it someone who is left leaning and for regulation of offensive speech.