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10 Nov 2020, 7:00 pm

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As predicted....MAGAs creating carnage in NY, set a fire in the street and one even spat directly in the face of an officer.

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REVEALED: Female anti-Trump protester, 24, who spat in a cop's face in NYC and shouted 'f*** you fascist' was an intern for high-ranking Democratic Congressman Jerry Nadler

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She was also taken into custody September 18 for jumping on a cop's back at Washington Square Park, according to the Daily News. She has a December 14 desk appearance for that case.

Source: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8922805/Female-protester-arrested-NYC-spitting-cops-face-interned-U-S-Rep-Jerry-Nadler.html
So, unsurprisingly, she was not a "MAGA" after all...

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10 Nov 2020, 7:25 pm

Why are you so afraid of the angry people without a tendency toward owning deadly weapons?

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10 Nov 2020, 7:26 pm

Why are people pretending it's patriotic to change the flag to represent a police state?

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10 Nov 2020, 7:33 pm

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Why are you so afraid of the angry people without a tendency toward owning deadly weapons?

Just trying to counter the misinformation campaign that is attributing the violence from the left as being caused by "MAGAs" to deflect responsibility from where it belongs.

And, given knives and "stun guns" (which are classed as deadly weapons in many jurisdictions) were seized from these people, it appears both sides appear to have "a tendency toward owning deadly weapons"...

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10 Nov 2020, 8:09 pm

Well after doing some more reading apparently there are reports of people trying to throw out votes, who were caught as well some other sabotages in the election.

Why do so many people have to be "bad sports" about this and just conduct an honest election and not be a sore loser. May be the best man win and just all be honest and shake hands in the end?

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10 Nov 2020, 8:12 pm

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... Why do so many people have to be "bad sports" about this and just conduct an honest election and not be a sore loser. May be the best man win and just all be honest and shake hands in the end?

Because Trump, that's why.

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10 Nov 2020, 8:22 pm

See that's what I mean. Why can't people play fair and not have dirty pool... Trump is destroying people's sense of moral honesty in voting.

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10 Nov 2020, 8:24 pm

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i understand you have a character up there named Ford, Premier of Ontario, who is something of a piece of work- imagine if he was a hundred times nastier, no a THoUsand times worse, and he was your PM. even here it is a vast understatement. just imagine if trumpoleeney himself was your PM. after a few years of him, Canada wouldn't be Canada anymore.

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10 Nov 2020, 8:25 pm

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... Trump is destroying people's sense of moral honesty...

One of the many reasons why I did not vote for him.

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10 Nov 2020, 9:48 pm

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Oh I can't say about Ford since I do not live in Ontario, but I do not like our Prime Minister at all. I mean sure one may be tempted to sabotage the election but wonder what the odds are that it would actually work, and it's probably best just to play fair and just accept whoever wins?

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10 Nov 2020, 10:11 pm

My mom won't let me go outside because potential riots.

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10 Nov 2020, 10:20 pm

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ironpony wrote:

... Why do so many people have to be "bad sports" about this and just conduct an honest election and not be a sore loser. May be the best man win and just all be honest and shake hands in the end?

Because Trump, that's why.

Are you saying you're a Biden man? :scratch:

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11 Nov 2020, 1:07 am

But since people were messing with the election and throwing out votes, what if they decide to have another election as a result now?

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11 Nov 2020, 1:34 am

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But since people were messing with the election and throwing out votes, what if they decide to have another election as a result now?

I am not aware of anything which prevents this possibility, and it's not unprecedented - the Democrats pushed for (and were granted) one after a 2018 congressional election:

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Not all elections are resolved on Election Day, and some are corrupted beyond repair. Americans, however, don’t like to acknowledge this reality. They imagine that a recount—or a court decision shutting down a recount—will settle things, but that’s not always the case. Sometimes new elections are needed. Unfortunately, revotes are relatively rare in American politics. That’s why today’s special election in North Carolina’s 9th congressional district should be understood, first and foremost, as a victory for democracy.

Source: https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/north-carolina-congress-vote/

Similarly, Georgia (and possibly other states) hold run-off elections, which are a "re-vote" but with fewer names on the ballot (leading 2 or 3, from memory) when no-one gained 50%+1 of the votes cast.

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11 Nov 2020, 3:27 am

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i cannot accept a corrupt thug who boosters a corrupt party who cruelly wants 10s of millions of american citizens to do without health care, while laughing at them about it.

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11 Nov 2020, 12:40 pm

Oh okay, makes sense. I guess I just thought that sabotaging votes, would only make things worse, because then you got to redo them over again, and that causes delays, etc. So it's not really solving the problem, but just delaying an inevitable conclusion? The envitable conclusion being one of them is getting in, and it can't be stopped, no matter how much you delay?

When you say without healthcare, do you mean the current American healthcare system, or does Trump want to do away with that as well?

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