As expected Trump claims election is being stolen from him

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Trump might barricade himself. He might put Crayons up his nose. He might eat a pound of liverwurst. He might do any number of things one can dream up. Imagined scenarios need to be clearly presented as such and in no way be stated as being an actual factual occurrence.

Did he say he was "trying an intervention"?
Or did a named source (with name available for attribution) report he was "trying an intervention"?
Or did an "anonymous" source report he was "trying an intervention"?

If the answer to the first (with evidence to support the answer) is yes, then he said it. Otherwise there is no evidence to support a claim he said it. Each step further down that set of questions without the answer being "yes" makes it less credible\likely to be accurate.

Last edited by Feyokien on 08 Nov 2020, 10:49 am, edited 1 time in total.: Indirect personal attack

If if Jared gets him to concede a day or two later he will again be tweeting the election was stolen because that’s how he rolls.

Rather than trying to determine how many angels can dance on the head of a pin, I think the headline of the linked article "Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner being considered for an ‘intervention’ if president refuses to leave White House" is about as close to cyberdad's claim, broadly, as makes no difference. I don't think we actually need to be present when/if Ivanka and Jared make the intervention to determine the event as proof-positive but can instead foresee it as a likely outcome, given Trump's parlous state of mind (as evidenced by his increasingly hysterical tweets).

None of us (I assume) are journalists with access to the exact same information used to create these stories and none of us is therefore in a position to state the absolute gospel truth of these reports - so please, let's just leave it (and the increasing temperature of this thread) behind.
Please.

Bet he’s holed up in the kitchen with the fridge, maybe gotten his large head stuck in a jar like an animal foraging for trash.

Or sitting in a rocking chair in a darkened room, rocking back & forth while muttering darkly to himself.
I don't believe the man [sic] is even capable of accepting defeat.

Hopefully he isn’t around the nuclear button, he might use it on his own country.
Like a family annihilator.

Yeah - he's effectively unlimited now and there are few adults in the room, so it's potentially a very dangerous time.
I doubt that, if he metaphorically pushed the button or kicked out in some other way in a fit of pique, the action would be followed through by those further down the chain of command.

A nice comfy extra large straitjacket seems like a good idea.We can have it monogrammed specially for him with a capital T.

I don't see anything unexpected or alarming in Trump's tweets. It's pretty much what I expected, especially under the highly unusual, never happened this way before, circumstances. He has over two months to challenge the election results.

Right now he's only in the just getting started phase, and there's quite some time left before Trump would reach the desperation phase and lock himself up in the oval office or whatever. I don't see any reason to put the cart before the horse as if there was only a week remaining for Trump to vacate. Unless it's for the sake of good theater.

What's amusing to me is that there was much speculation that Trump didn't really plan on actually winning the election and would come up with some scheme to get out of it.

Not unexpected, true - but certainly alarming. That's the USA's democratic process he's attempting to throw under the bus.
And, by various accounts from legal eagles, he will fail. What then, I wonder?

My guess is that from his perspective he will have given it his best shot, which he owed to America and democracy. And then he will continually trash Biden on Twitter about how he would have done this and that better or not at all and so on. I can see him trying to get Donald Jr elected in 2024.

Nope. He was in it for himself. The entire dismal episode has been one gigantic "me, me, me".
Oh yes, of that we can be certain.
Which one is that - Beavis or Butthead?

Aieee! The last thing the US needs is more nepotism!

I wouldn't expect him to see it that way from his perspective.

Oh Ok, sorry - I see what you mean.
Yes, in his head he's doubtless a towering statesman comparable to Churchill - at least.