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11 Sep 2021, 9:22 am

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If anybody sincerely wants to understand my point of view on this topic, they can feel free to PM me, however I will report antagonistic PMs.


Pass. 8)



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11 Sep 2021, 11:25 am

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CCP cannot take on Australia militarily .. so if they conquer Australia , it will be from the inside.


If that is so, my dear chick-a-dee, why is our defence Minister, Peter Dutton going to America to plead with the government to allow Austalian manufacturers licence to produce American weaponry?
And why has our government pledged an additional 750 billion dollars in defence spending to help disincentivise Chinese aggression?

The situation in Australia is direr.
We have been sleeping at the wheel.
The entire world needs to wake up to the fact that Nazi China/ccp is the biggest threat to world peace. 8O


So please consider the effects on the Australian economy . When it goes into a Wartime based
economy . Immediately, the Corporations that drive the business structure of making weapons
will have more access to the governmental ear . The USA is a country that is based on a Wartime economy . If the corporations are in charge of the media . And they get access to the government.
Like our media / governments best hope to increase or maintain a Wartime economy .
Is to keep a atmosphere of prevailing fear amongsts it Countries populations . Thus justifying the
War efforts .( Corporate Control of the economy). Inspite of their being no Wars on their Continent.
Please consider:
Why do people consider the USA to be engaged in never ending Wars , Or police actions or retrobutions against terrorists of potential terrorist Countries . A 20 year war in Afganistan .
In which we attempted to (change) destroy their society. This program is called (nation building )
as described by the World Trade Organisation . Same attempt made in Iraq , in VeitNam , Korea,Syria , Libya
ManySmaller wealthier countries have already signed onto these International Corporate ideaologies.
Even Quatar and, Kuwait .If ever there was a way to control China Aggression then it should be done economically and the world is aware of this .They are a major supplier of junk around the world
and Corporations for cheap components . A trade embargo by the rest of the free world might cool Chinas ambitions.(Just a offering of Potential Possibilities).


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12 Sep 2021, 2:41 am

Jakki wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Jakki wrote:
CCP cannot take on Australia militarily .. so if they conquer Australia , it will be from the inside.


If that is so, my dear chick-a-dee, why is our defence Minister, Peter Dutton going to America to plead with the government to allow Austalian manufacturers licence to produce American weaponry?
And why has our government pledged an additional 750 billion dollars in defence spending to help disincentivise Chinese aggression?

The situation in Australia is direr.
We have been sleeping at the wheel.
The entire world needs to wake up to the fact that Nazi China/ccp is the biggest threat to world peace. 8O


So please consider the effects on the Australian economy . When it goes into a Wartime based
economy . Immediately, the Corporations that drive the business structure of making weapons
will have more access to the governmental ear . The USA is a country that is based on a Wartime economy . If the corporations are in charge of the media . And they get access to the government.
Like our media / governments best hope to increase or maintain a Wartime economy .
Is to keep a atmosphere of prevailing fear amongsts it Countries populations . Thus justifying the
War efforts .( Corporate Control of the economy). Inspite of their being no Wars on their Continent.
Please consider:
Why do people consider the USA to be engaged in never ending Wars , Or police actions or retrobutions against terrorists of potential terrorist Countries . A 20 year war in Afganistan .
In which we attempted to (change) destroy their society. This program is called (nation building )
as described by the World Trade Organisation . Same attempt made in Iraq , in VeitNam , Korea,Syria , Libya
ManySmaller wealthier countries have already signed onto these International Corporate ideaologies.
Even Quatar and, Kuwait .If ever there was a way to control China Aggression then it should be done economically and the world is aware of this .They are a major supplier of junk around the world
and Corporations for cheap components . A trade embargo by the rest of the free world might cool Chinas ambitions.(Just a offering of Potential Possibilities).


Australia is diversifying its trading partners.
We are finding markets other than China, and reportedly, doing well.
Other countries need to do the same. 8)



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12 Sep 2021, 9:56 am

agreed , but inspite of general opinions about Trump , it was one of the things he was doing about China and the USA . Adding tariffs to Chinese imports , making incentives for people/ corporations to make things in this country . But our media was playing this type of stuff down here , in favour of Trumps character assasinations. But this is probably not a popular opinion to express here . :roll:


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12 Sep 2021, 2:00 pm

if trumpy had not, with malice aforethought, tried his best to worsen our dysfunctional health care system, i would have been more forgiving of his manifold other evils. that one thing was the straw that broke the camel's back AFAIC.



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12 Sep 2021, 2:59 pm

had not read about his damaging our healthcare system . He did give the appearance of trying to help it by fast tracking the covid vaccine , i thought , perhaps? ? but i do not know all the particulars of his stance on healthcare .


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12 Sep 2021, 2:59 pm

I think people who weren't on Trump and his followers' sh-t list (women and minorities) can afford to be more forgiving of Dump.


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12 Sep 2021, 4:19 pm

touché. i am half of what you mentioned but in a jejune manner i think i could have better tolerated his hatred of my type and my kin if only he'd have made it easier for me to obtain health care that wouldn't bankrupt me for life. but i senior-momented on his wish to also deny me the right to vote. so basically mister trumpioid just needs a big dose of industrial prep h. once and for all.



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12 Sep 2021, 4:22 pm

Why did America get so bad these last few years. Everyone blames it on the election, but people seem to be filled with so much hate, that I have to question, was it really just an election that screwed things up this bad. Seems to me that American culture must have some deep route issues going on, than just an election.



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12 Sep 2021, 4:27 pm

ironpony wrote:
Why did America get so bad these last few years. Everyone blames it on the election, but people seem to be filled with so much hate, that I have to question, was it really just an election that screwed things up this bad. Seems to me that American culture must have some deep route issues going on, than just an election.

i believe it can be traced to ronnie raygun's elimination of the FCC's "fairness doctrine" which for decades insured a modicum of balance in editorial content across the broadcast media platforms of the day. this one act enabled separate towers of babel to develop where anybody could have their own exclusive protected realms of reality where it wasn't possible for any contrary opinion to be broached or entertained.



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12 Sep 2021, 4:37 pm

I’m glad I don’t live in Belarus—even though it’s a beautiful country, and my mother’s ancestors are from there.

People run the gamut in America, just like anywhere else.

I wish the US wouldn’t have done the things they’ve done recently.



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12 Sep 2021, 4:42 pm

I think a lot of us are afraid that that the US is going to get a lot worse.


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12 Sep 2021, 4:43 pm

yes.



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12 Sep 2021, 4:44 pm

We can prevent this…..by not going down to the level of someone like Trump.



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12 Sep 2021, 4:53 pm

there are 74 million [per last election] folks who are chomping at the bit to turn us into a fascist state per trumpy's specs. history may not exactly repeat itself [per pre-war italy and post-war spain et al] but it surely rhymes. trumpy is the maga's beloved form of franco. people therein that weren't fascist francoids were systematically rounded up and concentration-camped en masse. that is what those 74 million want for the rest of us.



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12 Sep 2021, 5:01 pm

But what I don't understand is, why are people so obsessed with elections not going there way. Whenever I go to vote, and the person I vote for doesn't win, my attitude is well, the majority got what they want, win some lose some, etc.

This is the point of the voting system in the first place, is that the majority pick who is best, and just leave it at that. So why can't Americans just accept the majority vote and just let it go? Why impose the way they think it should be at all costs? Why choose to be sore losers?

I'm not just talking about this recent election but the 2016 one as well. A lot of sore losers, just couldn't accept a majority vote, and had to make things real dramatic for the next election. Why can't we all just fight fair and square without all this hitting below the belt when it comes to voting?