10 Apr 2022, 7:54 am
Texasmoneyman300 wrote:
I think churches of Christ should own businesses and investments and stock market endowments and real estate and mineral and water rights and companies to diversify their funding sources
No! It's what the Church of Scientology in Clearwater, FL, and the Church of Mormonism in Salt Lake City, UT are doing. As religious organizations, they're exempt from taxes. OK, fair enough. But they use costly city services (fire, police, water, etc.) without contributing tax money in return, while reaping tons of tax-free income. Look at their buildings: they all look luxurious! Which means those churches do have very high incomes.
So when you let them run businesses and buy stocks without contributing in return, they'll freeload even more. As a hard-right conservative, there's NOTHING I hate more than freeloading. If I wanted to freeload off of working people, I'd vote Democrat and collect government handouts, not hold down a productive, contributing job like I do now.
Early on in American history, churches gave out lots of charity goods and services to their local communities. So the government exempted them from taxes, since the churches' actions saved the government money. But today, many churches take advantage of the loophole: they don't pay taxes, but help only their members/attendees.
You're from Texas.
You should know better than to enable nonproductive freeloading.
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10 Apr 2022, 1:39 pm
I would rather boycott items that contain the label "made in the USA" than the ones that say "made in China". Especially the ones that say *proudly* made in the USA and have a picture of the American flag because it makes me want to barf. 
10 Apr 2022, 2:00 pm
lostonearth35 wrote:
I would rather boycott items that contain the label "made in the USA" than the ones that say "made in China". Especially the ones that say *proudly* made in the USA and have a picture of the American flag because it makes me want to barf.
I read a rumor that there's a town in China named Usa [pronounced OOH-sah], where many factories make goods for America. So they slap on a label saying "made in Usa", which is technically true. But since many labels are written in all-caps, it looks like "MADE IN USA".
10 Apr 2022, 4:13 pm
10 Apr 2022, 4:47 pm
Aspie1 wrote:
Texasmoneyman300 wrote:
I think churches of Christ should own businesses and investments and stock market endowments and real estate and mineral and water rights and companies to diversify their funding sources
No! It's what the Church of Scientology in Clearwater, FL, and the Church of Mormonism in Salt Lake City, UT are doing. As religious organizations, they're exempt from taxes. OK, fair enough. But they use costly city services (fire, police, water, etc.) without contributing tax money in return, while reaping tons of tax-free income. Look at their buildings: they all look luxurious! Which means those churches do have very high incomes.
So when you let them run businesses and buy stocks without contributing in return, they'll freeload even more. As a hard-right conservative, there's NOTHING I hate more than freeloading. If I wanted to freeload off of working people, I'd vote Democrat and collect government handouts, not hold down a productive, contributing job like I do now.
Early on in American history, churches gave out lots of charity goods and services to their local communities. So the government exempted them from taxes, since the churches' actions saved the government money. But today, many churches take advantage of the loophole: they don't pay taxes, but help only their members/attendees.
You're from Texas.
You should know better than to enable nonproductive freeloading.Well I read in a book written by a pastor that churches that own companies have to pay taxes on their company profits
10 Apr 2022, 5:50 pm
lostonearth35 wrote:
I would rather boycott items that contain the label "made in the USA" than the ones that say "made in China". Especially the ones that say *proudly* made in the USA and have a picture of the American flag because it makes me want to barf.
Nobody's stopping you.
10 Apr 2022, 9:40 pm
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10 Apr 2022, 11:02 pm
Aspie1 wrote:
Texasmoneyman300 wrote:
I think churches of Christ should own businesses and investments and stock market endowments and real estate and mineral and water rights and companies to diversify their funding sources
No! It's what the Church of Scientology in Clearwater, FL, and the Church of Mormonism in Salt Lake City, UT are doing. As religious organizations, they're exempt from taxes. OK, fair enough. But they use costly city services (fire, police, water, etc.) without contributing tax money in return, while reaping tons of tax-free income. Look at their buildings: they all look luxurious! Which means those churches do have very high incomes.
So when you let them run businesses and buy stocks without contributing in return, they'll freeload even more. As a hard-right conservative, there's NOTHING I hate more than freeloading. If I wanted to freeload off of working people, I'd vote Democrat and collect government handouts, not hold down a productive, contributing job like I do now.
Early on in American history, churches gave out lots of charity goods and services to their local communities. So the government exempted them from taxes, since the churches' actions saved the government money. But today, many churches take advantage of the loophole: they don't pay taxes, but help only their members/attendees.
You're from Texas.
You should know better than to enable nonproductive freeloading.Well churches that engage in commercial enterprises help revive high crime areas save communities money increase the tax base so I don’t think that’s unproductive like a cup of high quality coffee provided by the church could save someone a dollar if they went there instead of Starbucks and they lower crime churches that own stock market money need to do it to beat inflation I also think the church of Christ should own farm and ranch land I don’t think churches are unproductive freeloaders generally I don’t think churches should be forced to help people they don’t want to I think every working American needs to pay federal income taxes even if is ten dollars a month in taxes for min wage worker’s I think churches and non profits and foundations and non profits should be totally tax free I partially believe that because it would allow them to do more social good like revitalizing neighborhoods reducing crime feeding the poor and clothing the needy and homeless and increasing tax bases by revitalize neighborhoods
10 Apr 2022, 11:31 pm
Texasmoneyman300 wrote:
Well churches that engage in commercial enterprises help revive high crime areas save communities money increase the tax base so I don’t think that’s unproductive like a cup of high quality coffee provided by the church could save someone a dollar if they went there instead of Starbucks and they lower crime churches that own stock market money need to do it to beat inflation I also think the church of Christ should own farm and ranch land I don’t think churches are unproductive freeloaders generally I don’t think churches should be forced to help people they don’t want to I think every working American needs to pay federal income taxes even if is ten dollars a month in taxes for min wage worker’s I think churches and non profits and foundations and non profits should be totally tax free I partially believe that because it would allow them to do more social good like revitalizing neighborhoods reducing crime feeding the poor and clothing the needy and homeless and increasing tax bases by revitalize neighborhoods
I never said churches were freeloaders, although I'm sure some unscrupulous ones are. They take the tax exemption, but don't improve the surrounding community in return. Conversely, I think highly of the Catholic Church, despite being an atheist myself. It does a lot of good for the communities it operates in, like opening food pantries. Although, some of its recent changes are way too "woke" for my taste.I just realized something: I'm both an atheist and a conservative. That's a very rare combination! And yet another unpopular opinion.
10 Apr 2022, 11:59 pm
Aspie1 wrote:
Texasmoneyman300 wrote:
Well churches that engage in commercial enterprises help revive high crime areas save communities money increase the tax base so I don’t think that’s unproductive like a cup of high quality coffee provided by the church could save someone a dollar if they went there instead of Starbucks and they lower crime churches that own stock market money need to do it to beat inflation I also think the church of Christ should own farm and ranch land I don’t think churches are unproductive freeloaders generally I don’t think churches should be forced to help people they don’t want to I think every working American needs to pay federal income taxes even if is ten dollars a month in taxes for min wage worker’s I think churches and non profits and foundations and non profits should be totally tax free I partially believe that because it would allow them to do more social good like revitalizing neighborhoods reducing crime feeding the poor and clothing the needy and homeless and increasing tax bases by revitalize neighborhoods
I never said churches were freeloaders, although I'm sure some unscrupulous ones are. They take the tax exemption, but don't improve the surrounding community in return. Conversely, I think highly of the Catholic Church, despite being an atheist myself. It does a lot of good for the communities it operates in, like opening food pantries. Although, some of its recent changes are way too "woke" for my taste.I just realized something: I'm both an atheist and a conservative. That's a very rare combination! And yet another unpopular opinion.
Okay kool sorry I misunderstood u buddy my unpopular opinion is that I don’t believe in tipping and that I’m church of Christ
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