08 Aug 2007, 1:13 pm
Sedaka wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Conversely, 1) I tell you about how sex shouldn't be taken casually, while you 2) really, really, REALLY don't care!
i just reread that....... that's BS and quite stupid to say. im not the one trivializing sexual preferences yet putting the weight of eternal damnation on it like it's so simple...
To review, no eternal damnation comes from a gland-induced sensation leading to a desire (like me physically being attracted to women). The damnation comes in not catching that and praying to God to help you with it, but rather saying "f.you God" then turning around and whining "God is mean".
08 Aug 2007, 1:16 pm
Sedaka wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Sedaka wrote:
and i think it's stupid you sad you treat this like anything else unimportant to you........ (ESPECIALLY when you put words into God's mouth! gotta be a sin in there somewhere)
In regard to the phase I bolded, to what are you referring?
can you keep nothing straight?
im referring to your claims of meshing evolution with the will of god.... when clearly dont dont even believe in the CORE concepts of evolution
with your literal interpretation of things... it's illogical and blasphemous (to god and evolution) to do so
Sedaka wrote:
people who take less literal intepretations of the bible have no qualms putting the two together
but it's deceving and thoughtless (cause you dont seem to care about trivial points) on your behalf to make such gossamar statements
but it's deceving and thoughtless (cause you dont seem to care about trivial points) on your behalf to make such gossamar statements
You're seeing "devils, devils everywhere", and I don't know what you're ranting about.
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08 Aug 2007, 1:28 pm
Ragtime wrote:
Sedaka wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Conversely, 1) I tell you about how sex shouldn't be taken casually, while you 2) really, really, REALLY don't care!
i just reread that....... that's BS and quite stupid to say. im not the one trivializing sexual preferences yet putting the weight of eternal damnation on it like it's so simple...
To review, no eternal damnation comes from a gland-induced sensation leading to a desire (like me physically being attracted to women). The damnation comes in not catching that and praying to God to help you with it, but rather saying "f.you God" then turning around and whining "God is mean".
im so tired of your smartass eye rolling.....
im not stupid i know were not talking about the urges..... we're talking about what your religion expects homosexual people to do about these urges in order to repent... to live a lifestyle approved by god
my point is it's not that simple to expect them to do that...... it's forced. (refer to my example where i asked you if you EVER prayed to god to be attracted to men just to avoid your sexual lust/attraction to women... cause that's effectively what you're asking homosexuals to do)
and you ignored my previous points on this... so im not going back through it all.
suffice it to say... you have no logical way to navigate those waters THAT you have clearly demonstrated
the fact this is like the 3rd or 4th time you bring up the "urge does not equal sin" point shows that you are far behind the times or are ignoring these other "trivial" points
08 Aug 2007, 1:30 pm
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08 Aug 2007, 1:35 pm
Ragtime wrote:
Sedaka wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Sedaka wrote:
and i think it's stupid you sad you treat this like anything else unimportant to you........ (ESPECIALLY when you put words into God's mouth! gotta be a sin in there somewhere)
In regard to the phase I bolded, to what are you referring?
can you keep nothing straight?
im referring to your claims of meshing evolution with the will of god.... when clearly dont dont even believe in the CORE concepts of evolution
with your literal interpretation of things... it's illogical and blasphemous (to god and evolution) to do so
Sedaka wrote:
people who take less literal intepretations of the bible have no qualms putting the two together
but it's deceving and thoughtless (cause you dont seem to care about trivial points) on your behalf to make such gossamar statements
but it's deceving and thoughtless (cause you dont seem to care about trivial points) on your behalf to make such gossamar statements
You're seeing "devils, devils everywhere", and I don't know what you're ranting about.
you're like a squirrel who cannot remember where he put his nuts.......
must be nice not having to worry about such trivial stuff.
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08 Aug 2007, 1:40 pm
08 Aug 2007, 1:43 pm
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08 Aug 2007, 1:52 pm
08 Aug 2007, 1:53 pm
Ragtime-you just gotta understand that, well especially Soph and I, could care less of "god"
I mean I respect you are a christian, I used to be one too...But your really just yaking about god and this and that why you think its wrong
give someone else a chance to reply
seriously
08 Aug 2007, 1:54 pm
Sedaka wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Sedaka wrote:
i am disappointed that you still havent really tried to improve your rebuttals and still implement ignoring things and giving glib responses that do not contribute...
I'm not a student in your classroom. I had a teacher friend who talked to me the way you are, and she apologized for it because she was shifting into "teacher mode" unaware.
Sedaka wrote:
you know, it's not even necessarily a bad thing to admit you dont have the answer for something....
that at least would show you are giving soem sort of true consideration for things
that at least would show you are giving soem sort of true consideration for things
I already admitted I don't understand evo theory in detail.
ill apologize when you admit what blatant ignorant ass that you're being...
Sedaka wrote:
you dont have a logical reason for why homosexuality is a sin and why it's not something that just goes away when you want...
If you can manage to willfully keep away from other people's naked genetalia, then homosexuality has gone away from you as far as the Bible is concerned. That willfulness involves trying to curb your lust as well. We're above beasts, and we should act like it.
Sedaka wrote:
your little example and "comparison" of the nature of the sins (which you now back out of) had no logic whatsoever...
I don't back out of it. You just don't receive points you don't want to receive.
Sedaka wrote:
you cant fathom homosexuality as you have claimed
That's a wild enough claim to be untrustworthy -- especially since I know my own thoughts better than you know my thoughts.
08 Aug 2007, 1:56 pm
08 Aug 2007, 2:00 pm
Sedaka wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Sedaka wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Conversely, 1) I tell you about how sex shouldn't be taken casually, while you 2) really, really, REALLY don't care!
i just reread that....... that's BS and quite stupid to say. im not the one trivializing sexual preferences yet putting the weight of eternal damnation on it like it's so simple...
To review, no eternal damnation comes from a gland-induced sensation leading to a desire (like me physically being attracted to women). The damnation comes in not catching that and praying to God to help you with it, but rather saying "f.you God" then turning around and whining "God is mean".
im so tired of your smartass eye rolling.....
im not stupid i know were not talking about the urges..... we're talking about what your religion expects homosexual people to do about these urges in order to repent...
08 Aug 2007, 2:03 pm
08 Aug 2007, 2:07 pm
08 Aug 2007, 2:14 pm
Sopho wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Sopho wrote:
What about a gay couple who only have oral sex or neither?
Women are better at sucking a penis than men are. Please don't ask me to go into the depths, as it were, of their silky mouths, and their natural subtle eroticism which so inflames us. Men suck more like they're playing professional sports, or working out, than like they're actually making sweet, sweet love to their partners.
And you would know this how exactly?
I've been sucked.
But only by my wife.
08 Aug 2007, 2:15 pm
so you know s**t
