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30 Jan 2019, 12:07 pm

https://eu.azcentral.com/story/opinion/op-ed/2019/01/28/downtown-phoenix-photo-men-soot-blackface/2683881002/


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31 Jan 2019, 6:28 am

https://jonathanturley.org/2019/01/31/s ... o-protest/


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31 Jan 2019, 8:57 am

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https://jonathanturley.org/2019/01/31/stanford-professor-stops-teaching-course-on-american-indian-mythologies-after-50-years-due-to-protest/

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However, at a time when so many professors feel that they are facing increasing scrutiny and protests over the content of their work, the fate of Professor Fields magnifies growing concerns over academic freedom — and the commitment of schools like Stanford to defend it.

It is cowering to and enabling the “mob”. I use mob in quotes because how many students really object to him teaching the course and are in favor of descrimination based on cultural appropriation reasons?


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31 Jan 2019, 9:50 am

I still have not seen any science proving there is more than two genders, I only know about intersex and that has been proven it exists. People have claim science has proven it but I have not seen it yet.

To me, a behavior or a gender role doesn't define what your gender is. Not everyone is going to fit into a role. Like there are women out there with guy interests and men out there who are into cute things.


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31 Jan 2019, 10:05 am

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I still have not seen any science proving there is more than two genders, I only know about intersex and that has been proven it exists. People have claim science has proven it but I have not seen it yet.

To me, a behavior or a gender role doesn't define what your gender is. Not everyone is going to fit into a role. Like there are women out there with guy interests and men out there who are into cute things.

Showing that male and female are ends of a spectrum. That's more than two.



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31 Jan 2019, 10:23 am

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I still have not seen any science proving there is more than two genders, I only know about intersex and that has been proven it exists. People have claim science has proven it but I have not seen it yet.

To me, a behavior or a gender role doesn't define what your gender is. Not everyone is going to fit into a role. Like there are women out there with guy interests and men out there who are into cute things.


I'd like to point out that there's more to human experience than just "science."

We also have culture, language, art, and society. These things are no less real, and no less relevant, because they can't be analysed under a microscope. There are many aspects inherent to "gender" that are not strictly physical in nature, and its silly to pretend otherwise.

We have many expectations of "masculine" and "feminine" that go far beyond chromosomes.


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31 Jan 2019, 11:03 am

League_Girl wrote:
I still have not seen any science proving there is more than two genders, I only know about intersex and that has been proven it exists. People have claim science has proven it but I have not seen it yet.

To me, a behavior or a gender role doesn't define what your gender is. Not everyone is going to fit into a role. Like there are women out there with guy interests and men out there who are into cute things.


That's exactly how I feel about it. Gender study to me is simply pointing out that humans have things in common with humans. To expect Men & Women to be completely different in all aspects when we are both the same species is a bit redundant.



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31 Jan 2019, 1:01 pm

The evil of Leftism now burns books before they are even published.

Amelie Zhao Learns To Love Big Brother

Today the New Totalitarianism took a new scalp, in a way that ought to scare the hell out of all of us, on both the left and the right, who value free speech and inquiry. And it happened to someone born in a communist country.

Amelie Wen Zhao is a Young Adult author whose debut sci-fi/fantasy novel, Blood Heir, was set for a June release from a major publisher, as part of a three-book deal....

Well, guess what? The book, which had positive buzz (Barnes & Noble called it one of the most anticipate YA releases of the year), has been the subject of a massive Social Justice Warrior pile-on on social media, as Jesse Singal discussed in a tweetstorm. Very few people have even read the novel, but the mob attacked it as racist for a variety of reasons, one of them being that Zhao created a fantasy world where “oppression is blind to skin color” (this, from the press release). It’s a fantasy world, and people haven’t even read the book, but the mob was certain that Blood Heir is racist, and that its author — a young woman raised in Beijing, but now living in New York City — ought to be shut down.

Today, they got their wish.


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31 Jan 2019, 4:35 pm

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We also have culture, language, art, and society. These things are no less real, and no less relevant, because they can't be analysed under a microscope.

All these things can be analyzed, and are analyzed. :wink:



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31 Jan 2019, 4:37 pm

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The evil of Leftism now burns books before they are even published.

Remember my words, we have less than a decade before SJWs start literally lynching people.



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31 Jan 2019, 5:10 pm

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The evil of Leftism now burns books before they are even published.

Remember my words, we have less than a decade before SJWs start literally lynching people.


I'm starting to have hope. When people say intelligent things, pointing out the stupidity of SJW ideas, they tend to get a lot of positive feedback from the public. What makes the problem seem so bad is the people shouting the idiotic ideas have media rights, the media makes it seem like they are stronger than they actually are. It's kinda positive, because people are becoming aware of how corrupt the media actually is by the media adopting SJW ideologies that defy logic and often contradict themselves. Just watch, they are going to step on the wrong foot and people are going to explode, "I've had enough of this insanity!"



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31 Jan 2019, 6:22 pm

I honestly don't care what gender people define themselves as, I think it has come to a point now when we should say "sex" than "gender" when filling out forms and stuff and having a baby so people know what body the baby has or what body you have and what sex you prefer for dating. Then that would end the gender crises and no more struggling with selecting what gender you are. I have always gone by sex as I was taught growing up. I wonder if that would make everyone happy now?


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31 Jan 2019, 6:26 pm

Darmok wrote:
The evil of Leftism now burns books before they are even published.

Amelie Zhao Learns To Love Big Brother

Today the New Totalitarianism took a new scalp, in a way that ought to scare the hell out of all of us, on both the left and the right, who value free speech and inquiry. And it happened to someone born in a communist country.

Amelie Wen Zhao is a Young Adult author whose debut sci-fi/fantasy novel, Blood Heir, was set for a June release from a major publisher, as part of a three-book deal....

Well, guess what? The book, which had positive buzz (Barnes & Noble called it one of the most anticipate YA releases of the year), has been the subject of a massive Social Justice Warrior pile-on on social media, as Jesse Singal discussed in a tweetstorm. Very few people have even read the novel, but the mob attacked it as racist for a variety of reasons, one of them being that Zhao created a fantasy world where “oppression is blind to skin color” (this, from the press release). It’s a fantasy world, and people haven’t even read the book, but the mob was certain that Blood Heir is racist, and that its author — a young woman raised in Beijing, but now living in New York City — ought to be shut down.

Today, they got their wish.


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Seriously, that author should not have let people bully her. They had not ever read her book and what if JK Rowling had decided to pull her HP books off shelves and not have them ever be published again because people thought it taught witchcraft?

What if the author of 50 Shades of Gray had decided to do the same because of backlash about her book?

As a matter of fact, people who complain about a TV show or a movie or a book are actually advertising it because then it brings in more people wanting to buy the book to see what the fuss is and more people wanting to watch the movie or TV show to see the fuss, the complainers are actually helping the author and the movie companies and even helping Netflix when fat activists complained about the upcoming series Insatiable.


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01 Feb 2019, 9:45 am

XenoMind wrote:
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We also have culture, language, art, and society. These things are no less real, and no less relevant, because they can't be analysed under a microscope.

All these things can be analyzed, and are analyzed. :wink:


Not through the lens of "hard" science.


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01 Feb 2019, 10:00 am

XFilesGeek wrote:
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We also have culture, language, art, and society. These things are no less real, and no less relevant, because they can't be analysed under a microscope.

All these things can be analyzed, and are analyzed. :wink:
Not through the lens of "hard" science.
Agreed. Scientific topics lie on a spectrum, from pure mathematics at the 'hard' end, and the social sciences at the 'soft' end.

Hard Science includes any of the natural or physical sciences, such as Astronomy, Chemistry, Biology, Mathematics, or Physics, in which aspects of the universe are investigated by means of hypotheses and experiments (e.g., the "Scientific Method").

Soft Science, on the other hand, includes any of the specialized fields or disciplines, such as Anthropology, Psychology, Sociology, or Political Science (an oxymoron if I've ever heard one), that interpret human behavior, institutions, society, etc., on the basis of scientific investigations for which it may be difficult to establish strictly measurable criteria.

Even Science-Fiction can be classified by its "hardness" -- if it stick to reasonable extrapolations of known scientific principles, then it is considered "hard", but if it meanders off into unproven technology (i.e., hand-held energy weapons, transporters, light-sabres, et cetera) or technology that violates know scientific principles (i.e., FTL communications, FTL travel, psionics, et cetera), then it is considered "soft" science-fiction.

Anyway, I've digressed from this thread's topic.

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01 Feb 2019, 10:03 am

When people study the phenomenon/"problem" of "SJW's," they tend to use the methodology of social science.

Frequently, people rely as much on the results of social science inquiries as on the results of hard science inquiries. To me, that is dead wrong.

It's instructive to point out the difference between "soft" and "hard" science. And not really a digression from the topic.