Are many autistics racist?

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I am very concerned about the preservation of white heritage/race	8%	[ 16 ]
I believe the above concern is unfounded and racist	54%	[ 104 ]
I think the view in option #1 raises some good issues, but SOME people take it too far	13%	[ 25 ]
I think the view in option #1 raises some good issues, but MANY people take it too far	8%	[ 15 ]
show me the money (view results)	17%	[ 32 ]

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13 Aug 2015, 5:23 pm

glebel wrote:

People are people. You can't judge them before you know them.

You can't know everyone. You have to make assumptions.

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13 Aug 2015, 5:24 pm

you know what happens when you assume.

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13 Aug 2015, 5:29 pm

auntblabby wrote:

you know what happens when you assume.

yeah, using educated assumptions, I minimize my risk

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13 Aug 2015, 9:20 pm

LoveNotHate wrote:

auntblabby wrote:

you know what happens when you assume.

yeah, using educated assumptions, I minimize my risk

"True dat"...

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14 Aug 2015, 2:05 am

LoveNotHate wrote:

Here is my racist breakdown:

Blacks - don't feel safe around - pre-judge as dangerous - don't want to be around.

Low class whites - nearly all my people interaction troubles come from lowly educated whites - there are tons and tons of them - whites as a group seem destine to do manual labor work like be plumbers or carpenters, rarely do I encounter an intellectual white person

Upper class whites are tolerable - they have nice cities with their wealth - I live in such a city now.

Hispanics - never encounter them where i live

Asians - i feel the safest around - they are mostly short and seem the least threatening - my only friends are Asian. We can share intellectual jokes that might not be appreciated by members of the other groups.

I'm sort of in that same boat, though depending on how they dress and speak, I don't feel safe around both gangster Hispanics and poor Blacks. And it's not even all blacks either... since I'm most comfortable around and have the most fun with recent African immigrants. Hispanic, European, and Asian immigrants tend to be really cool too.

If they're suburban... well that's my people, so I'm race-blind to fellow suburbanites. Rich people are also tolerable too, irrespective of their race. So I think it's more of a class issue, but it's also a value issue. I don't fear being around poor Asians or poor Jews.

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14 Aug 2015, 2:09 am

being in the army taught me that godly people come in all shapes, sizes, colors and genders, as do infernal types. :idea: one simply cannot assume, and a presumption better be backed up with extensive personal experience with each particular person. when you've met one person, you've met ONLY one person.

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14 Aug 2015, 2:12 am

glebel wrote:

People are people. You can't judge them before you know them.

That's true... but not realistic, or rational. As a person of color, even here in friendly Oregon I have to be cautious in white-majority rural towns, where most people are very nice and accepting but the few who aren't make it known very quickly that they don't want you there. Being a polynesian in LA or SF could get you killed in certain areas. Living in Portland, things are pretty friendly, but I know to watch out for poor whites in the SE(Oregon City, Clackamas, etc.), poor hispanics in the West(Hillsboro, Forest Grove), and poor blacks in the East(East Portland, Gresham), and that's not racist.

Being race-blind shouldn't make you reality-blind. To not assume is to enter every situation as a newborn, discovering things anew. It's nice to be nice, but it's also smart to be cautious, and that doesn't make you a bad person.

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14 Aug 2015, 6:20 pm

Because humans like to group the world into discrete chunks and categories racism is inevitable. Your attitudes to other races are culturally and personally determined. Sure we can be very black and white in our thinking but tatus and social hierarchism plays a big part in racism (things to which we're not that sensitive) so i'd say that people on the spectrum are no more or less likely to be racist.

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15 Aug 2015, 6:51 pm

auntblabby wrote:

being in the army taught me that godly people come in all shapes, sizes, colors and genders, as do infernal types. :idea:

one simply cannot assume, and a presumption better be backed up with extensive personal experience with each particular person. when you've met one person, you've met ONLY one person.

There is a well known correlation between poverty and antisocial behaviour...
There are genetic influences involved in personality traits...
And of course, there are also cultural influences affecting personal attitudes/morality-systems...

As you say:

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godly people come in all shapes, sizes, colors and genders, as do infernal types

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However, environmental and genetic influences can and do create *tendencies*...
Courts of law do (and should, imo) take these factors into consideration...

The truth may be an inconvenient (or politically incorrect) one, but it is what it is...
One can be a well meaning but biased humanist or a true objective social scientist...

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15 Aug 2015, 6:56 pm

MarketAndChurch wrote:

Being race-blind shouldn't make you reality-blind. To not assume is to enter every situation as a newborn, discovering things anew. It's nice to be nice, but it's also smart to be cautious, and that doesn't make you a bad person.

Well said...

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15 Aug 2015, 7:18 pm

Ectryon wrote:

I agree with all but the last part...

It is my personal belief that those on the spectrum tend to have a genetically inspired predisposition towards honesty and an more humanitarian attitude towards others~...
My belief is based on personal observation and general research into those on the autistic spectrum...
If anyone is interested I could elaborate...

~This is not an attempt to paint those on the spectrum in a favourable light...
It is simply a statement of fact of one aspect of my *belief* system...

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15 Aug 2015, 8:53 pm

Pepe wrote:

Katira wrote:

I can honestly say I´m not a racist. I truly don´t think any ethnicity is above another.

There was a considerable controversy in regards to a book call "The Bell Curve..."
"The book was controversial, especially where the authors wrote about racial differences in intelligence and discussed the implications of those differences."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bell_Curve

Sure, but intelligence is only one part of a person. Also there is different kinds of intelligence. You can´t judge a human being or a "race" by one quality only.

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15 Aug 2015, 9:17 pm

Pepe wrote:

However, environmental and genetic influences can and do create *tendencies*...
Courts of law do (and should, imo) take these factors into consideration...

How exactly? By systematically favoring the rich against the poor (easy to implement by accepting bribes), whites against blacks, and so on, on the grounds that the latter are statistically more likely to be criminals, even if there's no evidence to incriminate the specific individuals?

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15 Aug 2015, 10:13 pm

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But does caution have to be about race? Why not a fake smile? The worst criminals in this world are white men in luxurious offices...

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15 Aug 2015, 10:25 pm

I'm pretty sure not all those types are white or male.

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16 Aug 2015, 1:48 am

We are an unusual type...strongly instinctual feelings as all humans but a stong logic centre or one that revolves around reason which for me anyways translates into a more clinical approach to people and society. Of course I am fearful in poor/unsafe areas but even in the midst of those feelings I know exactly why so I seldom succumb to them.

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