Kraichgauer
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Kraichgauer
Veteran
Joined: 12 Apr 2010
Gender: Male
Posts: 48,754
Location: Spokane area, Washington state.
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07 Sep 2011, 4:53 pm
Inuyasha wrote:
JakobVirgil wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
JakobVirgil wrote:
If the hole you are talking about is debt.
most of it is military so I guess we will have to start by cutting that.
most of it is military so I guess we will have to start by cutting that.
The biggest single chunk of that so-called nondiscretionary spending -- more than 20 percent of the total budget -- is used to pay Social Security benefits to existing retirees.
Another 15 percent pays the tab for Medicare health benefits. An additional 7 percent goes for Medicaid, 3 percent for veterans benefits and 1.3 percent for supplemental security income used to assist the aged, disabled and blind.
All types of aid to the needy -- Medicaid, housing subsidies, aid to poor families with children (welfare, which accounts for about 1 percent of the budget), food stamps, school lunches and so on, plus unemployment benefits -- account for about 16 percent of the budget.
In fact, all government payments to individuals amount to about 58 percent of the budget. That's twice the share of the budget such payments claimed 40 years ago. And the percentage continues to climb -- giving those pushing reform of such entitlement programs a powerful argument.
http://finance.yahoo.com/taxes/article/ ... -Are-Spent
Over half of the money spent by Government is for the entitlement programs, and that percentage is increasing.
Only about 30% of the Federal Budget is discretionary (which includes the military and everything else).
Military spending is only 20% of the total money that the Federal Government spends.
Looks more like entitlements are the issue, not the military (as much as some people here hate the military).
Do you know what non-discretionary means?
so much talky-talky so little thinky-thinky.
the miltary is 58% of Discretionary spending (you know the spending that we can do something about).
Discretionary is 30% of the budget.
Entitlements is 58% of the budget.
sure sweety , but what does non-Discretionary mean?
I don't expect you to answer not because it is rhetorical but because you are a person of low character.
here is a non ret*d breakdown of the budget.
maybe you can find someone to help you read it.
notice how most of the stuff the blowhards complain about barely registers?
there are only 3 categories that we should even care about social security is not really touchable or there.
HHS
DOD
Treasury (debt)
We have to pay the debt so that is off the table.
leaving HHS 800 billion this is medicare mostly largely off the table for the non insane
and Dept of Defense has a budget of nearly 700 Billion about 87% of HHS.
(More then 11 time the next biggest military budget (france))
So really an honest person (something I would never accuse you of being) would have to put
the defense budget on the table if they honestly wanted to balance the budget or shrink the government.
07 Sep 2011, 5:00 pm
JakobVirgil wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
JakobVirgil wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
JakobVirgil wrote:
If the hole you are talking about is debt.
most of it is military so I guess we will have to start by cutting that.
most of it is military so I guess we will have to start by cutting that.
The biggest single chunk of that so-called nondiscretionary spending -- more than 20 percent of the total budget -- is used to pay Social Security benefits to existing retirees.
Another 15 percent pays the tab for Medicare health benefits. An additional 7 percent goes for Medicaid, 3 percent for veterans benefits and 1.3 percent for supplemental security income used to assist the aged, disabled and blind.
All types of aid to the needy -- Medicaid, housing subsidies, aid to poor families with children (welfare, which accounts for about 1 percent of the budget), food stamps, school lunches and so on, plus unemployment benefits -- account for about 16 percent of the budget.
In fact, all government payments to individuals amount to about 58 percent of the budget. That's twice the share of the budget such payments claimed 40 years ago. And the percentage continues to climb -- giving those pushing reform of such entitlement programs a powerful argument.
http://finance.yahoo.com/taxes/article/ ... -Are-Spent
Over half of the money spent by Government is for the entitlement programs, and that percentage is increasing.
Only about 30% of the Federal Budget is discretionary (which includes the military and everything else).
Military spending is only 20% of the total money that the Federal Government spends.
Looks more like entitlements are the issue, not the military (as much as some people here hate the military).
Do you know what non-discretionary means?
so much talky-talky so little thinky-thinky.
the miltary is 58% of Discretionary spending (you know the spending that we can do something about).
Discretionary is 30% of the budget.
Entitlements is 58% of the budget.
sure sweety , but what does non-Discretionary mean?
I don't expect you to answer not because it is rhetorical but because you are a person of low character.
here is a non ret*d breakdown of the budget.
maybe you can find someone to help you read it.
notice how most of the stuff the blowhards complain about barely registers?
there are only 3 categories that we should even care about social security is not really touchable or there.
HHS
DOD
Treasury (debt)
We have to pay the debt so that is off the table.
leaving HHS 800 billion this is medicare mostly largely off the table for the non insane
and Dept of Defense has a budget of nearly 700 Billion about 87% of HHS.
(More then 11 time the next biggest military budget (france))
So really an honest person (something I would never accuse you of being) would have to put
the defense budget on the table if they honestly wanted to balance the budget or shrink the government.
While I know you want our military gutted, I hate to break this to you, but military equipment is expensive. Unless you plan on our military to be armed with nothing more than muskets, you need to realize the fact that it is expensive.
HHS's budget expenditures have been exploding, and Social Security's money was raided, you also left out the insanity known as Obamacare which will throw on $1 trillion dollars in spending (which will probably be at least double that).
The main reason no country in their right mind will attack the United States, is because of our military.
07 Sep 2011, 5:04 pm
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