Why do people disapprove of homosexuality?

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If gay marriage is made legal, will the streets be filled with queers running around naked, shoving their junk in the faces of children?

One can only hope.






EDIT: I'm joking.

It wasn't a serious question, but I've heard of people that bring that up. I just think, "why does that stop them from doing it now?"

I think gay people lust after each other because that is the way their lust works.

I am happy with my heterosexual lusts. What gays do to or with each other is not my concern. As long as their habits are not forced upon me, I have no problem. Basically I don't think about it much. It is not my problem.

When I deal with strangers I do not consider their private sexual behavior because it has nothing to do with the interactions that I am concerned with. Basically, I really don't care. That is why gay marriage does not bother me. I am not going to marry a gay person and no gay person is going to marry me.

What am I to gay folk and what are they to me? Nothing and nothing.

ruveyn

I know it, man. And let me reiterate an old point, marriage has a stabilizing effect on the queers. If anything, having the option and implicit obligation to get married and settle down causes them to behave more normally.

So how do you deal with weirdo cases like me? I "lust" after female bodies, and the purely carnal side of my sexuality is mostly heterosexual. That ends entirely as soon as we strike up a conversation: with women, I immediately start talking to them like I would talk to a buddy. Sure, I can open up to them and be honest with them, but I feel too comfortable with them for there to be any passion. With men, we end up talking about our innermost feelings, discussing our deepest, darkest secrets, etc., and I'm caught up in an intimate relationship before I'm really given any say in it. It's not strictly speaking a voluntary sort of thing. There is a lot to being a gay guy besides just lust.

The main problem, like I said, is with clueless straight people who have grown up with no concept whatsoever of gay people, except for some perverted fringe weirdos that everyone makes fun of. My boyfriend grew up in the 50s (he's a grandfather too, by the way, a bi guy), and I know very well just how messed-up things were in the 1950s.

Ruveyn, it's not your fault, but you simply grew up in an environment in which you were not given a very good context for understanding gay people. I didn't mean to try to psychoanalyze you PERSONALLY, but I know for a fact that it makes a HUGE difference if young people are given a basic concept, early on in their lives, of what a gay person is. As annoying and sometimes degrading as caricatures like the ones on Modern Family and such are, it's providing necessary exposure. They are serving as somewhat better role-models for gay people than the phonies off of "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy," and they are illuminating for straight people the fact that gay guys go through most of the same crap in their love lives as straight people.

And even if I have you individually wrong, I know that people from your generation have a great big empty space in their heads, a great big question-mark, concerning gay people. The context for them is just not there, except as a few vague caricatures and a somewhat scary sense that you might disappear one dark night if someone thought you were one.

Aw, cum on, Ruveyn. It can't be that bad.



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When I think about the core of it, it always goes to something like number three right there. I certainly don't see it as gender nuetral, but more pro-gender vrs. gender. After all, 'guys don't act like girls in bed! It's disgusting!" "All women live to serve their male spouse!" Ect.

Why? Are you afraid that you might like it or something?

All the gay men i know are looking for (or in committed relationships with) willing, enthusiastic, adult partners. Not a single one of them has ever flirted with me.

There are cultures that are so vehemently anti-gay that a man will grab your junk just to make sure you don't like it.

I would find that to be an unpleasant intrusion of personal space, but the way you express your objection makes it sound like there is more to it for you.

I have no desire to experience terminal disgust. Some people like abominations. I do not.

Having sex with a man is equivalent (for me) to sitting down and eating a plateful of hot steaming sh*t.

ruveyn

Actually, I think that in the case of people like Ruveyn, they are genuinely coming from deeply institutionalized homophobia. With people from a certain generation, it's so deeply ingrained on their psyche that it's kind of unfair to judge them for it too harshly. I actually have a great-uncle, now gone round the bend sadly, who once told me, in his own words, "I am a racist. I can't help that I am a racist, but it is just the culture that I was born into. I disagree with racism, but it's not something you just decide to have." I think the same is going to be true for a long time for things like homophobia.

Yes. To a certain degree my father was much the same - for both things.
He was born in 1916 and died in 2010 without ever knowing about my sexuality. This troubled me greatly on one level, but on another I knew it would trouble him even more.

It is, however, upsetting when people of that generation are dead set against institutionally training children to be less racist, or less homophobic.

Suppose you were locked away in a prison, with nothing but male companionship? Or, in a nuclear submarine, underwater with nothing but men, for months at a time?

When in rome?

He'd probably jerk off, if he became aroused at all (he's 75). Same-sex attraction can't be comditioned. Do you believe that gays can be turned straight?