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07 Oct 2013, 10:45 am

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07 Oct 2013, 11:04 am

I thought that Murdock owned this newspaper? Maybe not.

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07 Oct 2013, 11:25 am

I wonder if Nancy Pelosi will give up her fancy booze stocked Air Force flights back and forth between DC and California?



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07 Oct 2013, 12:31 pm

The President really does need to stand up to those vile, disgusting Repugs and their degenerate Saul Alinsky tactics this time. Otherwise, the forces of evil will simply use the same tactics in the future to end Medicare, and then Social Security. The Repugs are a just pile of filthy, perverted extremists out to bring down the entire nation.



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07 Oct 2013, 1:14 pm

Jacoby wrote:
ArrantPariah wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
The House represents the will of the people.

The Repugnican majority in the House of Representatives is the result of extremely partisan gerrymandering, and frustrated the will of the people.

http://www.emmetcounty.org/pzcr/

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Not only is the House right to stand up to executive tyranny


"Executive Tyranny?" :lmao:

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Obamacare is unconstitutional.


Oh, and you know more about constitutional law than the Supreme Court? :lmao:

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If the individual mandate is not a valid exercise of the commerce clause and a tax as they say it is then it did not originate in the House and the law is void.


Stop reading those silly Libertarian tracks already.

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Harry Reid and Barack Obama refuse to negotiate,

There ain't nuthin' to negotiate. Obamacare is a done deal, and is rolling out on schedule.

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they're spending more money to "shutdown" non-essential parts of government than it costs to run them normally while .


So, the Repugs aren't gaining anything then, are they?

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They're punishing the American people, what is the point of shutting down open air monuments, parks, even the sections of the ocean, its a joke.


Aw, boo-hoo.

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Obama is not king,


No, he is President.

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he does not rule by decree much to his disappointment.


We are counting on the President to stand firm for a change.


There is no point talking to you, don't respond to me any longer.


Why, because ArrantPariah is bringing up valid points to counter right wing propaganda?
As he pointed out, the Supreme Court found the Affordable Care Act perfectly constitutional. On top of that, it wasn't the President who had shut down the government, it was Congressional Republicans - to blame Obama for it is to divorce oneself completely from reality for the sake of partisanship.
And by the way, that so called tyranny on Obama's part is going to allow millions of Americans to have health care - something which the Republicans never had any intention of doing.

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07 Oct 2013, 2:24 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
Why, because ArrantPariah is bringing up valid points to counter right wing propaganda?
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


You think taunts and emoticons constitute "valid points"?


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07 Oct 2013, 2:32 pm

Jacoby wrote:
I wonder if Nancy Pelosi will give up her fancy booze stocked Air Force flights back and forth between DC and California?


http://www.factcheck.org/2008/12/nancy- ... sonal-jet/



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07 Oct 2013, 2:34 pm

Dox47 wrote:
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Why, because ArrantPariah is bringing up valid points to counter right wing propaganda?
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


You think taunts and emoticons constitute "valid points"?


Irrefutable, apparently. :wink:



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07 Oct 2013, 3:13 pm

ArrantPariah wrote:
Dox47 wrote:
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Why, because ArrantPariah is bringing up valid points to counter right wing propaganda?
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


You think taunts and emoticons constitute "valid points"?


Irrefutable, apparently. :wink:


Thanks, Arrant. 8)

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07 Oct 2013, 3:15 pm

ArrantPariah wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
I wonder if Nancy Pelosi will give up her fancy booze stocked Air Force flights back and forth between DC and California?


http://www.factcheck.org/2008/12/nancy- ... sonal-jet/



http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room ... -aircraft/



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07 Oct 2013, 3:53 pm

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07 Oct 2013, 3:56 pm

ArrantPariah wrote:
Irrefutable, apparently. :wink:


Certainly as irrefutable as anything Inuyasha ever posted.


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07 Oct 2013, 3:57 pm

What if the Democrats threatened to shut down the government and stop paying our debts if the House doesnt pass an immigration bill or pass improved background checks? The fact is that teabaggers live in a child's world where they expect the adults to save them and not act like they do.



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07 Oct 2013, 4:00 pm

Dox47 wrote:
ArrantPariah wrote:
Irrefutable, apparently. :wink:


Certainly as irrefutable as anything Inuyasha ever posted.


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07 Oct 2013, 4:19 pm

Dox47 wrote:
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Why, because ArrantPariah is bringing up valid points to counter right wing propaganda?
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

You think taunts and emoticons constitute "valid points"?

Dox, you're approaching tone-trolling there. Yes, AP was taunting and using emoticons; no, that doesn't mean that there were no valid points in his statements.



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07 Oct 2013, 5:00 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
There is no point talking to you, don't respond to me any longer.


Why, because ArrantPariah is bringing up valid points to counter right wing propaganda?
As he pointed out, the Supreme Court found the Affordable Care Act perfectly constitutional. On top of that, it wasn't the President who had shut down the government, it was Congressional Republicans - to blame Obama for it is to divorce oneself completely from reality for the sake of partisanship.
And by the way, that so called tyranny on Obama's part is going to allow millions of Americans to have health care - something which the Republicans never had any intention of doing.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

better be careful there, or else Jacoby will say the same thing to you also.