Atheist kills muslims and Gun Control a bad thing?
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please define the difference?
The actual needy deserve assistance and the slackers don't.
Psssp.....
The slackers are easy to identify by their whining whenever I use the word "hammock".
define slacker?
define needs assistance?
so if a guy who lost all his limbs and can't work whines when you say hammock hes a slacker. perhaps even though he can't work he still feels guilty for not working and when you talk about it it makes him feel bad that he can't. but guess he's a slacker. or perhaps all the "slackers" should just be disappeared by the government no?
some would say anyone who cant work should be killed, others might say well if they can't move from the neck down then they can get aid, but anyone else is a slacker. luckily the government has a more realistic way of deciding.
Wise words indeed.
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To answer both your posts:
Know your enemy.
And...
Not at all. I have no problem with people who use firearms for recreation, or even for those who see gun rights as politically important. But I certainly do have a problem with those people who believe gun rights are without limit, and who believe their gun rights are more important than the grief of those who have suffered loss because of gun violence (the way gun fetishists disregarded the grief of parents who had lost children at Sandy Hook). The same people are the kind who convince themselves of the most insane, baseless conspiracy theories revolving around being martyred for their gun rights (again, Sandy Hook, when gun fetishists claimed the shooting was only a false flag government operation to take their precious guns away, that no children had been killed, and that the grieving parents were only actors).
you and others talk like there are no limits on the 2nd amendment. but there are like thousands and thousands of gun laws. there are tons of limits already on guns. the shooting was terrible but you don't go limiting rights further just cause terrible things happen. not a standard you want to set. or next time someone leaks gov info bam, bye freedom of the press.
when you have 15 million people taking ar15s to schools shooting kids then we can talk but when is like 10 people over the years that hardly gives good reason to limit the rights of 150 million or more people.
more people die in car crashes yet we don't put limits on cars that only let them go a max of 55 mph
no they can go 250 or more mph while theres no road in the us that its legal to do so.
You'd have to have an original thought for equality to apply, and so far you haven't. Raptor has evolved significantly over the years on a number of issues, from gay rights to drug policy and many others, while you continue to parrot the same party line you've been squawking since you showed up here, then have the gall to accuse others of being brainwashed or otherwise otherwise speaking in bad faith.
Also, I'd say a good 40% or so of your post count is literally quotes of other people and the words 'what X said', and you can't get much less original than that.
I disapprove of a lot of values and beliefs held by many of the people here, but I criticize you specifically for reasons having nothing to do with those, which are that you're dishonest, you're a hypocrite, you constantly slander people who you know nothing about, and you condescend to people who are smarter and better informed than you are. I have no problem with honest disagreement, as numerous other posters here can attest to, I have a rather serious problem with partisan idiocy and hypocrisy, your stock in trade.
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To answer both your posts:
Know your enemy.
And...
Not at all. I have no problem with people who use firearms for recreation, or even for those who see gun rights as politically important. But I certainly do have a problem with those people who believe gun rights are without limit, and who believe their gun rights are more important than the grief of those who have suffered loss because of gun violence (the way gun fetishists disregarded the grief of parents who had lost children at Sandy Hook). The same people are the kind who convince themselves of the most insane, baseless conspiracy theories revolving around being martyred for their gun rights (again, Sandy Hook, when gun fetishists claimed the shooting was only a false flag government operation to take their precious guns away, that no children had been killed, and that the grieving parents were only actors).
you and others talk like there are no limits on the 2nd amendment. but there are like thousands and thousands of gun laws. there are tons of limits already on guns. the shooting was terrible but you don't go limiting rights further just cause terrible things happen. not a standard you want to set. or next time someone leaks gov info bam, bye freedom of the press.
when you have 15 million people taking ar15s to schools shooting kids then we can talk but when is like 10 people over the years that hardly gives good reason to limit the rights of 150 million or more people.
more people die in car crashes yet we don't put limits on cars that only let them go a max of 55 mph
no they can go 250 or more mph while theres no road in the us that its legal to do so.
Oh, no, I never said there weren't limits on gun rights, but my point was, extremists in the gun rights movement think their rights come before anyone else'. They are the types who claim that fire arm rights are absolute. I had mentioned Sandy Hook as an example to illustrate how those loons are guilty of the most offensive conspiracy theories, where the grief of mourning parents is either disregarded, or even denied.
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The Gun Control Challenge is still open, though after years of the best and brightest of WP's anti-gun contingent dashing themselves upon its rocks, I'm not particularly hopeful that anyone who knows what they're talking about will emerge.
Here's the basics, in case anyone has forgotten:
Now, the caveats. The US is awash in guns and has a wide range of socio-economic issues unrelated to guns that affect crime and violence, so in order for a valid comparison to be made, the policy in question has to have been:
Imposed on a country where gun ownership was previously common.
Imposed on a country where violence was an actual problem, preferably comparable to the US.
Be shown to have acted independently of other socio-economic variables
Shown to have reduced total violence, not just "gun violence" by significant levels
Basically, show a country where gun control had demonstrably worked; simple, right?
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please define the difference?
The actual needy deserve assistance and the slackers don't.
Psssp.....
The slackers are easy to identify by their whining whenever I use the word "hammock".
define slacker?
define needs assistance?
so if a guy who lost all his limbs and can't work whines when you say hammock hes a slacker. perhaps even though he can't work he still feels guilty for not working and when you talk about it it makes him feel bad that he can't. but guess he's a slacker. or perhaps all the "slackers" should just be disappeared by the government no?
I think most including a hardhearted conservative like me can agree that loss of one's limbs constitutes eligibility for the safety net for life.
If a person is a slacker they'll know it. I don't see anything happening to clean up the safety net of ne'er do wells. I'm not even sure it would be a good idea since a thorough attempt to weed out the slackers would potentially disenfranchise too many of the more deserving.
Really, if you're just looking for a source of butthurt and disheartenment I can be that guy.
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I don't care, you probably don't like me and consider me and others here slackers.
this is why I really have no group that I can be in.
Are you one?
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To answer both your posts:
Know your enemy.
And...
Not at all. I have no problem with people who use firearms for recreation, or even for those who see gun rights as politically important. But I certainly do have a problem with those people who believe gun rights are without limit, and who believe their gun rights are more important than the grief of those who have suffered loss because of gun violence (the way gun fetishists disregarded the grief of parents who had lost children at Sandy Hook). The same people are the kind who convince themselves of the most insane, baseless conspiracy theories revolving around being martyred for their gun rights (again, Sandy Hook, when gun fetishists claimed the shooting was only a false flag government operation to take their precious guns away, that no children had been killed, and that the grieving parents were only actors).
Yeah right, like antis didn't cease the moment to USE that incident (or any others like it) as leverage for their cause.
A few yahoos waving NRA banners or whatever doesn't represent all gun owners like you wish. That was a time for mourning, not political grandstanding. Don't throw stones when you live in a glass house.
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To answer both your posts:
Know your enemy.
And...
Not at all. I have no problem with people who use firearms for recreation, or even for those who see gun rights as politically important. But I certainly do have a problem with those people who believe gun rights are without limit, and who believe their gun rights are more important than the grief of those who have suffered loss because of gun violence (the way gun fetishists disregarded the grief of parents who had lost children at Sandy Hook). The same people are the kind who convince themselves of the most insane, baseless conspiracy theories revolving around being martyred for their gun rights (again, Sandy Hook, when gun fetishists claimed the shooting was only a false flag government operation to take their precious guns away, that no children had been killed, and that the grieving parents were only actors).
Yeah right, like antis didn't cease the moment to USE that incident (or any others like it) as leverage for their cause.
A few yahoos waving NRA banners or whatever doesn't represent all gun owners like you wish. That was a time for mourning, not political grandstanding. Don't throw stones when you live in a glass house.
I think I demonstrated in my previous posts that I don't demonize all, or even most, gun owners. Rather, I'm talking about the gun fetishists who have been nutso on the subject.
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You'd have to have an original thought for equality to apply, and so far you haven't. Raptor has evolved significantly over the years on a number of issues, from gay rights to drug policy and many others, while you continue to parrot the same party line you've been squawking since you showed up here, then have the gall to accuse others of being brainwashed or otherwise otherwise speaking in bad faith.
Also, I'd say a good 40% or so of your post count is literally quotes of other people and the words 'what X said', and you can't get much less original than that.
I disapprove of a lot of values and beliefs held by many of the people here, but I criticize you specifically for reasons having nothing to do with those, which are that you're dishonest, you're a hypocrite, you constantly slander people who you know nothing about, and you condescend to people who are smarter and better informed than you are. I have no problem with honest disagreement, as numerous other posters here can attest to, I have a rather serious problem with partisan idiocy and hypocrisy, your stock in trade.
OH MY GOD.. THAT is perhaps the best example of projection i've ever seen...
Your guns must be getting heavy friend..
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That's a stumble.. and an unusual one for you.....
My gun may be smaller but my GUNS ARE BIGGER..
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To answer both your posts:
Know your enemy.
And...
Not at all. I have no problem with people who use firearms for recreation, or even for those who see gun rights as politically important. But I certainly do have a problem with those people who believe gun rights are without limit, and who believe their gun rights are more important than the grief of those who have suffered loss because of gun violence (the way gun fetishists disregarded the grief of parents who had lost children at Sandy Hook). The same people are the kind who convince themselves of the most insane, baseless conspiracy theories revolving around being martyred for their gun rights (again, Sandy Hook, when gun fetishists claimed the shooting was only a false flag government operation to take their precious guns away, that no children had been killed, and that the grieving parents were only actors).
Yeah right, like antis didn't cease the moment to USE that incident (or any others like it) as leverage for their cause.
A few yahoos waving NRA banners or whatever doesn't represent all gun owners like you wish. That was a time for mourning, not political grandstanding. Don't throw stones when you live in a glass house.
I think I demonstrated in my previous posts that I don't demonize all, or even most, gun owners. Rather, I'm talking about the gun fetishists who have been nutso on the subject.
You've consistently demonstrated youself to be an anti in several threads over the years. Want me to go dig up some samples and post them here?
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"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."
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To answer both your posts:
Know your enemy.
And...
Not at all. I have no problem with people who use firearms for recreation, or even for those who see gun rights as politically important. But I certainly do have a problem with those people who believe gun rights are without limit, and who believe their gun rights are more important than the grief of those who have suffered loss because of gun violence (the way gun fetishists disregarded the grief of parents who had lost children at Sandy Hook). The same people are the kind who convince themselves of the most insane, baseless conspiracy theories revolving around being martyred for their gun rights (again, Sandy Hook, when gun fetishists claimed the shooting was only a false flag government operation to take their precious guns away, that no children had been killed, and that the grieving parents were only actors).
Yeah right, like antis didn't cease the moment to USE that incident (or any others like it) as leverage for their cause.
A few yahoos waving NRA banners or whatever doesn't represent all gun owners like you wish. That was a time for mourning, not political grandstanding. Don't throw stones when you live in a glass house.
I think I demonstrated in my previous posts that I don't demonize all, or even most, gun owners. Rather, I'm talking about the gun fetishists who have been nutso on the subject.
You've consistently demonstrated youself to be an anti in several threads over the years. Want me to go dig up some samples and post them here?
I have what can be described as a most unusual propensity toward photographic memory of text, millions of words of text.. literally speaking....
There is no record here of the 'K' lying AKA dishonesty; I challenge anyone to bring up text PER BLACK AND WHITE QUOTE that proves otherwise, per my last post up there about PROJECTION.
OPINIONS CAN AND DO VARY, like 'A holes', BOTH EXPRESSED AND UNDERSTOOD BUT THAT DOES NOT MEAN LIES OR DISHONESTY, JUST problems with cognitive empathy aka theory of mind, most likely, per scientific evidence on 'THAT' 'HERE'.
BULLIES, WITH AVATARS WITH GUNS OR NOT.
PHYSICAL BULLIES.
INTELLECTUAL BULLIES.
DO NOT SCARE ME, OR MAKE ME SWEAT BULLETS...
haha!
AND that's all for now..
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To answer both your posts:
Know your enemy.
And...
Not at all. I have no problem with people who use firearms for recreation, or even for those who see gun rights as politically important. But I certainly do have a problem with those people who believe gun rights are without limit, and who believe their gun rights are more important than the grief of those who have suffered loss because of gun violence (the way gun fetishists disregarded the grief of parents who had lost children at Sandy Hook). The same people are the kind who convince themselves of the most insane, baseless conspiracy theories revolving around being martyred for their gun rights (again, Sandy Hook, when gun fetishists claimed the shooting was only a false flag government operation to take their precious guns away, that no children had been killed, and that the grieving parents were only actors).
Yeah right, like antis didn't cease the moment to USE that incident (or any others like it) as leverage for their cause.
A few yahoos waving NRA banners or whatever doesn't represent all gun owners like you wish. That was a time for mourning, not political grandstanding. Don't throw stones when you live in a glass house.
I think I demonstrated in my previous posts that I don't demonize all, or even most, gun owners. Rather, I'm talking about the gun fetishists who have been nutso on the subject.
You've consistently demonstrated youself to be an anti in several threads over the years. Want me to go dig up some samples and post them here?
I have what can be described as a most unusual propensity toward photographic memory of text, millions of words of text.. literally speaking....
There is no record here of the 'K' lying AKA dishonesty; I challenge anyone to bring up text PER BLACK AND WHITE QUOTE that proves otherwise, per my last post up there about PROJECTION.
OPINIONS CAN AND DO VARY, like 'A holes', BOTH EXPRESSED AND UNDERSTOOD BUT THAT DOES NOT MEAN LIES OR DISHONESTY, JUST problems with cognitive empathy aka theory of mind, most likely, per scientific evidence on 'THAT' 'HERE'.
BULLIES, WITH AVATARS WITH GUNS OR NOT.
PHYSICAL BULLIES.
INTELLECTUAL BULLIES.
DO NOT SCARE ME, OR MAKE ME SWEAT BULLETS...
haha!
AND that's all for now..
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Thank you and your photographic memory.
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