i am legitimately scared about trump becoming president

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24 Jan 2016, 4:29 pm

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In what way is it legitimate to be scared of something?

I would say it is legitimate if the something you are scared of has been proven to be of harm. But there's more to it than that, I think. Wouldn't there need to be some possibility of that harm coming about?

For example, if you live in Australia, you might be legitimately scared of being bitten by a funnel web spider, but if you live in Alaska where the chances of being bitten by a funnel web spider are extremely small, saying to have a legitimate fear of being bitten by one is nothing but paranoia.

Similarly, living in Texas, I have no fear of being eaten by a polar bear. If someone around here expressed a fear of being eaten by polar bears, it would take all my will to keep from laughing and calling him a nutcase.

While there is certainly a chance that Trump becomes President, the harms you envision are anything but proven. So while you might have a fear of Trump becoming President, to label that fear as legitimate is paranoia.

I can see where Democrats and Republicans and Independents might all have fears of Trump becoming President. What scares me is that so many clearly support his Presidency.

What Trump is good at is telling people what they want to hear. No matter how preposterous the idea, if enough people want to hear it, he'll tell it to them. There is no way for any of us to know what Trump would do as President. While he could turn out to be a great President, I think it more likely that he would be pretty much useless as President.

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24 Jan 2016, 4:36 pm

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Ther s other ways to get around. But you only have one life and a car won't save you, but a gun can.

Life>transportation

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24 Jan 2016, 4:41 pm

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Ther s other ways to get around. But you only have one life and a car won't save you, but a gun can.

Life>transportation

My car certainly can, if I have to rush to the hospital - - or if I have a need to run down an armed assailant. And if riding a bike or walking could get me clear to the other side of town in half-an-hour, I'd do it. And I've taken the bus before, and all I have to say about that is, I prefer not to.

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24 Jan 2016, 8:16 pm

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Do you Often take your car into your house, stores, on the bus, what about to work ?

You'll probably be shot before you can run a armed assailant down. And if you have enough room to get up to speed then you probably don't have a justified reason to run them over.

As someone who lost his car I'm doing fine it wasn't the end of the world.

If I get shot or stabbed to death because I didn't have my gun it is the end of my world.

Also there's these things called ambulances. If you don't have enough Time to wait for one then I'm guessing you'd die on way to hospital then crash into and hurt other people.

However In the 15-60 minutes it can take cops to arrive you could have saved your life with a gun.

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24 Jan 2016, 8:17 pm

Just because you don't think guns are important to you doesn't mean you should force that opinion on others.

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24 Jan 2016, 9:05 pm

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Just because you don't think guns are important to you doesn't mean you should force that opinion on others.

How so?

Not thinking something is important suggests only a lack of an opinion.

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24 Jan 2016, 9:58 pm

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Consider the source.
The severely naive think they can call the cops and they will magically appear out of thin air and save the day.

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24 Jan 2016, 10:17 pm

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Just because you don't think guns are important to you doesn't mean you should force that opinion on others.

Who says I'm forcing my views on anyone? I'm just stating how I'd choose having a car over a gun.

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24 Jan 2016, 11:41 pm

Deltaville wrote:

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Just because you don't think guns are important to you doesn't mean you should force that opinion on others.

How so?

Not thinking something is important suggests only a lack of an opinion.

He supports gun control which is forcing their dislike of guns on people who like guns.

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24 Jan 2016, 11:42 pm

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Just because you don't think guns are important to you doesn't mean you should force that opinion on others.

Who says I'm forcing my views on anyone? I'm just stating how I'd choose having a car over a gun.

By supporting gun control and using that you don't see guns as important as a reason for it.

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25 Jan 2016, 12:27 am

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Just because you don't think guns are important to you doesn't mean you should force that opinion on others.

Who says I'm forcing my views on anyone? I'm just stating how I'd choose having a car over a gun.

By supporting gun control and using that you don't see guns as important as a reason for it.

Even if I do hold those positions, that hardly means that it's still anything more than just my opinion. I can express my opinion all I want, but it's not going to have any impact on you.

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25 Jan 2016, 12:32 am

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Even if I do hold those positions, that hardly means that it's still anything more than just my opinion. I can express my opinion all I want, but it's not going to have any impact on you.

Yeah your right you and people like you have never passed any gun laws and gun bans . Nope California and New York and thousands of gun laws don't exist .

Bunch of crazy insane antigun people in your state right now making it so people can't carry guns anywhere and anyone can anonymously get anyone else's rights taken away. It's never enough,,not til all guns are banned and all gun owners dead and tossed in a mass grave. So f*****g tire of always being under attack. I just want to live what's left of my short life in peace. Wish you'd all just move tome England and leave us Americans alone.

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25 Jan 2016, 12:35 am

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sly279 wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

sly279 wrote:

Just because you don't think guns are important to you doesn't mean you should force that opinion on others.

Who says I'm forcing my views on anyone? I'm just stating how I'd choose having a car over a gun.

By supporting gun control and using that you don't see guns as important as a reason for it.

Even if I do hold those positions, that hardly means that it's still anything more than just my opinion. I can express my opinion all I want, but it's not going to have any impact on you.

So you'd be okay with it if someone expressed an opinion that blacks should be sent back to Africa and gays put in concentration camps? After all, it wouldn't actually impact anyone if since it would just be an opinion.

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25 Jan 2016, 12:44 am

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Even if I do hold those positions, that hardly means that it's still anything more than just my opinion. I can express my opinion all I want, but it's not going to have any impact on you.

I have never been responsible for any gun control laws. And I am a true blue American.

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25 Jan 2016, 12:46 am

Raptor wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

sly279 wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

sly279 wrote:

Just because you don't think guns are important to you doesn't mean you should force that opinion on others.

Who says I'm forcing my views on anyone? I'm just stating how I'd choose having a car over a gun.

By supporting gun control and using that you don't see guns as important as a reason for it.

Even if I do hold those positions, that hardly means that it's still anything more than just my opinion. I can express my opinion all I want, but it's not going to have any impact on you.

Someone can rant and rave that sort of bigoted insanity all they want - this is a free country, after all. I just reserve the right to argue against them.

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25 Jan 2016, 12:51 am

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Raptor wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

sly279 wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

sly279 wrote:

Just because you don't think guns are important to you doesn't mean you should force that opinion on others.

Who says I'm forcing my views on anyone? I'm just stating how I'd choose having a car over a gun.

By supporting gun control and using that you don't see guns as important as a reason for it.

Even if I do hold those positions, that hardly means that it's still anything more than just my opinion. I can express my opinion all I want, but it's not going to have any impact on you.

Someone can rant and rave that sort of bigoted insanity all they want - this is a free country, after all. I just reserve the right to argue against them.

I just love it how you always have to go to lengths to remind us of the evils bigotry as if either you think we need to be told, or your reassuring yourself of your own beliefs...

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