Please stop with the excess hatred and anger of Trump

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You can't compare isolated incidents of Obama (and half of these weren't even after he got elected) to what's happening to Trump now.

That being said I do believe there would be some protests against Hillary, since she was much more hated than Obama (and rightfully so). Obama was actually a decent person.

However, I believe that after November, the Trumpettes probably would have left Hillary alone and moved on.

I appreciate having this kind of discussion, with statements that tend more toward falsifiable than self-aggrandizing. It's possible you correctly intuited the underlying statistics. That process is as perilous as it is universal, but I'll stipulate that the vast majority of his comments did concern Trump. Mine sure did, probably because Trump was way more exciting and notable. I tried to get into my technical critique of Hillary, wherever I had a political conversation, but I wasn't here much so I don't think I have any easy proof. People wanted to talk about Trump, not Hillary, and I got sucked in. I now realize that was a huge mistake.

Yeah, the good ole work from the leftist media

I'll keep the responsibility myself, rather than shifting the blame, if that's okay with you.

Well, if Johan Galtung, the man who accurately predicted in the early 1980s the fall of the Soviet Empire by 1990, is accurate in the prediction he made in 2009, then by 2020 the US Empire will have been consigned to the dustbin of history. Now what this means for the US domestically is unclear, but times they are a-changing.

We have less than 3 years to go.

Remember this picture from the "protests" (i.e., leftist riots) at the inauguration?



Turns out the commercial limo belonged to a Muslim immigrant who came to the US and started a small chauffeur business in the D.C. area. He is now out $70,000. The Hispanic driver was injured and needed medical treatment. Great job, rioters -- that's the way to stick it to the Evil Capitalist White Man.

Limo torched in DC protests belongs to Muslim immigrant

The inauguration of Donald Trump had fireworks, but for people going about their daily lives, there was just fire and chaos from protesters. A limo driver was injured while the stretch limousine he drove was torched and destroyed by protesters near the intersection of 12th and K Streets NW in Washington, DC.

Muhammad Ashraf, the owner of the company, Nationwide Chauffeured Services, is now speaking out against the protesters for what they did.

In an exclusive interview with Red Alert Politics, Ashraf said he wasn’t a supporter of Donald Trump during his campaign, but Friday’s protests were completely counter-productive.

“I have a different point of view,” Ashraf told Red Alert. “I did not agree with many of the things he said, but that still does not give me the right to go and affect someone’s livelihood.” . . .

“[We’ve] been in business for over 25 years and this is the first time this has happened,” Ashraf said.
Ashraf explained that with the loss of the vehicle, his company is now in the hole for $70,000 (if insurance doesn’t cover riots) plus commission and the medical bills for his driver.

Read more at http://redalertpolitics.com/2017/01/23/ ... hing-limo/

Isn't this the Disrupt J20 group? I think their intention was to start riots, not peaceful protests. They're also the ones who threw rocks at the police. And I think they're also an anarchist group, not just an anti-Trump group. Their actions are a good argument against anarchy, ironically enough.

Also, I'm so glad there are already people raising money to help him. Most people are good people, though that can be hard to remember sometimes.

How long did that take though? The idea seems to be that the president should provide personal paperwork immediately upon demand.

Strange how Galtung's US as empire vs. US as republic dichotomy kind of fits with Trump's America First ideas.
Before November, I would have thought such a swift decline in the US empire was unlikely, but now it seems quite possible.

I wonder how much such a change would impact access to cheap resources and products and how much and in what ways it would change the quality of life for Americans.

There are quite a few people who just like an excuse to riot. They riot when their sports teams win, ffs.

Also, rioting can work, as much as people hate to look at the evidence. Suddenly, those people who were denounced as radicals (King) seem worth a second look when you see the alternative (X). I can't come up with an immanent scenario where I'd advocate for using it that way, but I don't want to take it off the table. I'm an excellent negotiator.

How long will it be until Trump has done more bad things than Obama?

So far, Trump has withdrawn funding from organisations which mention abortion, which will grossly restrict the work of sexual health organisations worldwide.

He's signed off on the expansion of two oil pipelines, one of which had been blocked by Obama because of environmental concerns. The other wasn't opposed by Obama (at least not as strongly as Keystone), but may breach treaties which the immigrants have made with the natives.

He's withdrawn from negotiations surrounding TPP and TTIP, limiting America's potential for further economic growth, undoing years of good work, and damaging global efforts towards improving the environment and protecting workers.

He's complained yet again about how facts are unfair, and generally behaved like a spoilt child because his inauguration wasn't as popular as Obama's in 2008. He even spent his first address of the CIA complaining about this issue.

There's still time to turn it around, but it's only been a few days and he's already made a lot of mistakes. At this point it's hard to see how one could fairly describe criticism of him as "excessive".

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Okay, I'll admit it. This is my secret agenda. I hate fake news and alternative facts because they mean that I can't have fun with hyperbole anymore. I can say what I intend as the simplest thing, and people take it as hyperbole, or I can try to use hyperbole and people take it completely seriously. I think I would have the same problem if I had a different political viewpoint.

I'll propose a truce on that level. Do you know Game Theory? I'll tell you my strategy in advance. Tit for tat with random forgiveness and no random betrayal. I want jokes to be jokes again, too, and I want to be able to say what I mean without people adding a bunch of extra stuff to it (like an autistic person do).

I'm going to make some replies to people's comments right now as a show of sincerity. Check it.

One of my best friends came to me in tears because she's afraid of losing her health care, losing her job (and being unable to find another one), being unable to marry her boyfriend, because of Trump's administration wanting to dismantle federal anti-discrimination laws for LGBT people.

So, no, f**k Donald Trump. Zero sympathy for that vile, abusive, orange piece of s**t.

I'm trying to make a distinction between Trump and his deluded voters. He has done enough that I also have no sympathy for him. I might offer sympathy to his supporters if they can have some sympathy for the concerns of my friends. Some of them mock the concerns of my friends, or willfully terrorize people after understanding the significance of what they are doing. They go in the basket with Trump.